Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 17:48     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
Anonymous wrote:maybe mclean in ncsl at those ages should focus on a perfecting a style of play rather than blowout wins.


Who says they aren’t focusing on style of play? NCSL just isn’t very competitive.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 14:53     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
maybe mclean in ncsl at those ages should focus on a perfecting a style of play rather than blowout wins.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 14:02     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


The point was, McLean's A/B teams had been in CCL for years and are no longer in CCL. NPL is pretty maxed out at 13 or so clubs so NCSL or EDP are the only real landing spots. NCSL, while far from lowly still does not have A teams from the bigger clubs. It is pretty understood thta NCSL has small club A teams, (still very good teams) and the 2-4th teams of larger clubs. Beyond the first division of NCSL the teams are just average.

08 - 38 GF, 2 GA, 7W-0L
07 - 55 GF, 5 GA, 8W-1L

And looking at the results of the two pre-ECNL teams above in NCSL, I think it is reasonable to ask why those teams are in NCSL.


So after U9 and U10 in CCL, Green players go to the 9v9 pre-ECNL format, but in NCSL, and for 2 years of it. How is that "pre-elite development" to go blow out all these teams in weekend games, especially since NCSL does not start putting teams into competitive divisions until U13? What does a current U10 player do? Washington Spirit doesn't take 2009s for next year.


Spirit’s feeder club is Great Falls which plays in NPL
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 13:50     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


The point was, McLean's A/B teams had been in CCL for years and are no longer in CCL. NPL is pretty maxed out at 13 or so clubs so NCSL or EDP are the only real landing spots. NCSL, while far from lowly still does not have A teams from the bigger clubs. It is pretty understood thta NCSL has small club A teams, (still very good teams) and the 2-4th teams of larger clubs. Beyond the first division of NCSL the teams are just average.

08 - 38 GF, 2 GA, 7W-0L
07 - 55 GF, 5 GA, 8W-1L

And looking at the results of the two pre-ECNL teams above in NCSL, I think it is reasonable to ask why those teams are in NCSL.


So after U9 and U10 in CCL, Green players go to the 9v9 pre-ECNL format, but in NCSL, and for 2 years of it. How is that "pre-elite development" to go blow out all these teams in weekend games, especially since NCSL does not start putting teams into competitive divisions until U13? What does a current U10 player do? Washington Spirit doesn't take 2009s for next year.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 11:15     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


The point was, McLean's A/B teams had been in CCL for years and are no longer in CCL. NPL is pretty maxed out at 13 or so clubs so NCSL or EDP are the only real landing spots. NCSL, while far from lowly still does not have A teams from the bigger clubs. It is pretty understood thta NCSL has small club A teams, (still very good teams) and the 2-4th teams of larger clubs. Beyond the first division of NCSL the teams are just average.

08 - 38 GF, 2 GA, 7W-0L
07 - 55 GF, 5 GA, 8W-1L

And looking at the results of the two pre-ECNL teams above in NCSL, I think it is reasonable to ask why those teams are in NCSL.


They should move them to EDP, which offers much tougher competition.


EDP is the wild west and does not necessarily offer any better competition. In our region it suffers many of the same problems that NCSL suffers from. You have to travel to far North for the competitive strength of EDP to matter.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 10:34     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


The point was, McLean's A/B teams had been in CCL for years and are no longer in CCL. NPL is pretty maxed out at 13 or so clubs so NCSL or EDP are the only real landing spots. NCSL, while far from lowly still does not have A teams from the bigger clubs. It is pretty understood thta NCSL has small club A teams, (still very good teams) and the 2-4th teams of larger clubs. Beyond the first division of NCSL the teams are just average.

08 - 38 GF, 2 GA, 7W-0L
07 - 55 GF, 5 GA, 8W-1L

And looking at the results of the two pre-ECNL teams above in NCSL, I think it is reasonable to ask why those teams are in NCSL.


They should move them to EDP, which offers much tougher competition.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 10:26     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


the top mclean pre-ECNL u11 / u12 Green teams play in ncsl, but with the C teams from other big clubs (Loudon, arlington). also the bottom gold and silver teams from mclean play in those same ncsl divisions. why would any u10 girl look forward to that next year, and again the year after??? explain it to me.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 10:23     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.


The point was, McLean's A/B teams had been in CCL for years and are no longer in CCL. NPL is pretty maxed out at 13 or so clubs so NCSL or EDP are the only real landing spots. NCSL, while far from lowly still does not have A teams from the bigger clubs. It is pretty understood thta NCSL has small club A teams, (still very good teams) and the 2-4th teams of larger clubs. Beyond the first division of NCSL the teams are just average.

08 - 38 GF, 2 GA, 7W-0L
07 - 55 GF, 5 GA, 8W-1L

And looking at the results of the two pre-ECNL teams above in NCSL, I think it is reasonable to ask why those teams are in NCSL.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2018 08:33     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.


There are plenty of McLean teams playing in the 'lowly' NCSL.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2018 10:03     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
Anonymous wrote:Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?


McLean plays in ECNL not DA.

Your point still stands though but the answer lies with CCL.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2018 23:02     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
Why are mclean pre-DA teams even in ncsl to begin with?
SpiritVAParent
Post 11/28/2018 12:30     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of good VA clubs if you are an 07 or 08 including McLean, Spirit, BRYC and Loudoun. You can’t go wrong with any of those clubs.


I would be careful of BRYC. They have 30 players for U13 ECNL. I assume they plan to continue this model next year.. Making BRYC ECNL is no guarantee that you will play ECNL.


If roster size is a concern, I'd be wary of Spirit too. They max out their rosters as well.

So McLean, Arlington, and Loudoun are better choices. Loudoun has a very good 07 team.


Not true

U13 has only 16


I think that was already answered. They didn't have more than 16 available to play for Spirit. It's not like they had 40 great choices and decided to keep it at 16. Tryouts were sparse.


And for a couple of McLean 08s who would otherwise be playing in NCSL next year? Who cares, you take the higher competition level and the development opportunity.


Exactly the point here ... this seems like a good opportunity because the 07s in McLean will go into ECNL over GDA at either WS or ARL. I love the idea of GDA over basically another year of WAGS. When are WS Virginia sessions??


Don’t think they have announced ID dates yet. If interested in Spirit. Would email Tom Torres, Spirit VA technical director/acting head coach of Spirit pro team. Tell him your daughter is McLean 08 green player and you are interested in her coming to a practice. He will get back to you.


I agree. Tom is very responsive, and there are visiting players regularly out on the field. By participating, you and your daughter can get a sense of the academy structure and the coaching. The best way to see if any team is a good fit is to join a training session, not to rely on ID days.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 22:44     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of good VA clubs if you are an 07 or 08 including McLean, Spirit, BRYC and Loudoun. You can’t go wrong with any of those clubs.


I would be careful of BRYC. They have 30 players for U13 ECNL. I assume they plan to continue this model next year.. Making BRYC ECNL is no guarantee that you will play ECNL.


If roster size is a concern, I'd be wary of Spirit too. They max out their rosters as well.

So McLean, Arlington, and Loudoun are better choices. Loudoun has a very good 07 team.


Not true

U13 has only 16


I think that was already answered. They didn't have more than 16 available to play for Spirit. It's not like they had 40 great choices and decided to keep it at 16. Tryouts were sparse.


And for a couple of McLean 08s who would otherwise be playing in NCSL next year? Who cares, you take the higher competition level and the development opportunity.


Exactly the point here ... this seems like a good opportunity because the 07s in McLean will go into ECNL over GDA at either WS or ARL. I love the idea of GDA over basically another year of WAGS. When are WS Virginia sessions??


Don’t think they have announced ID dates yet. If interested in Spirit. Would email Tom Torres, Spirit VA technical director/acting head coach of Spirit pro team. Tell him your daughter is McLean 08 green player and you are interested in her coming to a practice. He will get back to you.
Anonymous
Post 11/27/2018 18:43     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
Anonymous wrote:No need to bash any of these clubs. The previous point was that all of the DA and ECNL clubs keep lots of players around, whether maxing rosters or using DPs. If your DD is good enough to start, you shouldn’t worry about those who choose to be a DP or perennial bench player. It’s their choice.


+1
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Post 11/27/2018 17:31     Subject: Should McLean Pre-ECNL players consider Spirit DA?
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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of good VA clubs if you are an 07 or 08 including McLean, Spirit, BRYC and Loudoun. You can’t go wrong with any of those clubs.


I would be careful of BRYC. They have 30 players for U13 ECNL. I assume they plan to continue this model next year.. Making BRYC ECNL is no guarantee that you will play ECNL.


If roster size is a concern, I'd be wary of Spirit too. They max out their rosters as well.

So McLean, Arlington, and Loudoun are better choices. Loudoun has a very good 07 team.


Not true

U13 has only 16


I think that was already answered. They didn't have more than 16 available to play for Spirit. It's not like they had 40 great choices and decided to keep it at 16. Tryouts were sparse.


And for a couple of McLean 08s who would otherwise be playing in NCSL next year? Who cares, you take the higher competition level and the development opportunity.


Exactly the point here ... this seems like a good opportunity because the 07s in McLean will go into ECNL over GDA at either WS or ARL. I love the idea of GDA over basically another year of WAGS. When are WS Virginia sessions??