Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 14:32     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There still hasn't been even ONE person with a kid at LJMS with a complaint about how things are going since the rezoning this fall. There hasn't been anyone with a kid at TMS complaining about the 30% increase in students this fall.

So, let the complainers complain about what they forecast and imagine. The doom hasn't happened. If it is going to happen, the smart thing to do would be to make sure Dalia and Pat and the principal at LJMS are doing what they can to keep things positive there. Beyond that, if you are unhappy with the results and LJMS becomes unacceptable to you, then move! I am 100% sure -- as you should be -- that the school board is not going to reverse the zoning decision. Might as well focus on the future.


You are incorrect. They have already talked about doing an entire boundary decision in future years for all of Fairfax County that most certainly would affect these two schools. It wouldn't be reversed but it could be changed.

That is ridiculous to expect people to move. Not everyone has the funds to do so.


Not expecting people to move. But, practically speaking, it is one of your options if you are unhappy with how things settle out. You can be proactive and work with the situation now, find out how things are inside the walls of the school (not just on DCUM), and if you don't think LJMS is good enough for your child, you have the same options as everyone else who bought in a certain boundary and feels queezy about the MS or HS. You either suck it up and become one of the involved parents, you hire tutors if needed, or you move. Most likely, you'll stay. You'll find the like minded parents and your child will be fine, and move on to HS after two years. But, bringing the OHS kids back into LJMS is probably the least likely outcome.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 14:00     Subject: Re:Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
And these discussions serve as reminders for what should be considered during a boundary review. So whether or not they end up affecting Thoreau and Luther Jackson, they do paint a picture of what needs to be taken into account for future boundary discussions.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 13:58     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:There still hasn't been even ONE person with a kid at LJMS with a complaint about how things are going since the rezoning this fall. There hasn't been anyone with a kid at TMS complaining about the 30% increase in students this fall.

So, let the complainers complain about what they forecast and imagine. The doom hasn't happened. If it is going to happen, the smart thing to do would be to make sure Dalia and Pat and the principal at LJMS are doing what they can to keep things positive there. Beyond that, if you are unhappy with the results and LJMS becomes unacceptable to you, then move! I am 100% sure -- as you should be -- that the school board is not going to reverse the zoning decision. Might as well focus on the future.


You are incorrect. They have already talked about doing an entire boundary decision in future years for all of Fairfax County that most certainly would affect these two schools. It wouldn't be reversed but it could be changed.

That is ridiculous to expect people to move. Not everyone has the funds to do so.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 13:51     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
There still hasn't been even ONE person with a kid at LJMS with a complaint about how things are going since the rezoning this fall. There hasn't been anyone with a kid at TMS complaining about the 30% increase in students this fall.

So, let the complainers complain about what they forecast and imagine. The doom hasn't happened. If it is going to happen, the smart thing to do would be to make sure Dalia and Pat and the principal at LJMS are doing what they can to keep things positive there. Beyond that, if you are unhappy with the results and LJMS becomes unacceptable to you, then move! I am 100% sure -- as you should be -- that the school board is not going to reverse the zoning decision. Might as well focus on the future.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 12:48     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The premise was that some kids would need to move into TMS. And thise would come frim LJMS.

It was never the plan to expand TMS and then leave it empty. But, I'm not going to go any further with your woulda, coulda, shoulda logic. The move is done. Find another windmill to charge.


This. 1000x this. She can’t move on and it’s like arguing with a lunatic. You’re both crazy by the end.


Why do you keep asserting there is only one poster who has been following this and thinks FCPS screwed up big time? You are wrong.

Maybe we keep posting because your posts don't deal with the facts or substance, and just hurl personal insults.


I have dealt with the facts (related to the education of kids attending those schools - lj and th) and they are ignored. Lj is less crowded. Th is not at capacity. Lj’s Enrollment didn’t “plummet.” I’ve not seen any posts about the kids’ educations suffering. How ‘bout them facts?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 11:49     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The premise was that some kids would need to move into TMS. And thise would come frim LJMS.

It was never the plan to expand TMS and then leave it empty. But, I'm not going to go any further with your woulda, coulda, shoulda logic. The move is done. Find another windmill to charge.


This. 1000x this. She can’t move on and it’s like arguing with a lunatic. You’re both crazy by the end.


Why do you keep asserting there is only one poster who has been following this and thinks FCPS screwed up big time? You are wrong.

Maybe we keep posting because your posts don't deal with the facts or substance, and just hurl personal insults.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 11:35     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:The premise was that some kids would need to move into TMS. And thise would come frim LJMS.

It was never the plan to expand TMS and then leave it empty. But, I'm not going to go any further with your woulda, coulda, shoulda logic. The move is done. Find another windmill to charge.


This. 1000x this. She can’t move on and it’s like arguing with a lunatic. You’re both crazy by the end.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 10:51     Subject: Re:Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Having all of Oakton leave its boundaries though will not help Jackson much. As you said, even back in the day, it didn't have a great reputation with Oakton included. Being that Oakton has had children attending Jackson for decades, the school board could have taken more time with this.

But they were too busy with identity politics on federal gun control.


Someone is certainly “too busy” about something and it ain’t the school board.


Can you not see how ironic it was that the entire board of republicans and democrats had absolutely zero discussion on a school boundary that fed into an underperforming high school while each of them spoke at length on federal gun control for the item right before? Whether you like the decision or not, how is it that our entire school board didn't think a boundary revision was even worth discussing?


Right- so the decision was made on the fly. Gotcha. Or it had already been researched beforehand.
no doubt. (agreeing with last PP). Do you really think the school board needed to argue over this when it had been two years since the expansion at Thoreau was COMPLETED and even more years than that where Jackson had been over crowded. They already had this in the CIP for years and they had multiple community engagements. Truth is, it was essentially decided before the community engagements, but still -- the board members didn't need to hear from each other or blather on (per usual!). No one was going to change their minds b/c the expansion at Thoreau was meant to reduce overcrowding at Jackson. I know that Palchik and Hines understood the demographic impact, but they had to balance that with the realities on the ground -- location, proximity, pyramid groupings. A person can be aware of and concerned about demographic changes but still conclude that those issues are outweighed by other factors in some decisions.


What are you talking about? The CIP decision to expand Thoreau was made very recently. Falls Church High School's renovation was on the books way before they decided to add Thoreau's expansion to the CIP. Just another example of how certain people have more influence than others in the county.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2018 10:35     Subject: Luther Jackson MS Enrollment Plunges as Expected
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