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Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

How are we deluding ourselves if we were in public high school during this same period and recognize this culture as the same as what we experienced? And why would you think this behavior would be unique to private school kids?

For sure there were parties in public high school. But they weren't celebrated the same way in general, and the toxic "you are special and better than others" entitlement atmosphere is more of a private school thing.

I assume you mean that references to them weren't allowed in the yearbook? If so, then yes you are right about that. But I'm not sure what the "you are special and better than others" attitude had to do with partying. Many public school parents knew what was going on and allowed it. Some even bought alcohol for these parties! Really, there was a permissive attitude adults had towards teens that was very prevalent during that era. I really think that's what fueled this atmosphere and not anything unique to private school culture.

They both had parties. Private schools, though, were (are?) associated with parties plus entitlement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

How are we deluding ourselves if we were in public high school during this same period and recognize this culture as the same as what we experienced? And why would you think this behavior would be unique to private school kids?

For sure there were parties in public high school. But they weren't celebrated the same way in general, and the toxic "you are special and better than others" entitlement atmosphere is more of a private school thing.

I assume you mean that references to them weren't allowed in the yearbook? If so, then yes you are right about that. But I'm not sure what the "you are special and better than others" attitude had to do with partying. Many public school parents knew what was going on and allowed it. Some even bought alcohol for these parties! Really, there was a permissive attitude adults had towards teens that was very prevalent during that era. I really think that's what fueled this atmosphere and not anything unique to private school culture.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

How are we deluding ourselves if we were in public high school during this same period and recognize this culture as the same as what we experienced? And why would you think this behavior would be unique to private school kids?

For sure there were parties in public high school. But they weren't celebrated the same way in general, and the toxic "you are special and better than others" entitlement atmosphere is more of a private school thing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

How are we deluding ourselves if we were in public high school during this same period and recognize this culture as the same as what we experienced? And why would you think this behavior would be unique to private school kids?

+1.

/s/ MCPS graduate who attended many parties back in the day with kids from GP, SR, Landon and Holton (and occasionally, GDS, SFS, NCS and STA).

Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

How are we deluding ourselves if we were in public high school during this same period and recognize this culture as the same as what we experienced? And why would you think this behavior would be unique to private school kids?

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Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

It wasn’t just the editor. It was a group effort. That’s why it reflects so badly on the school culture. Less than five years ago.

I am sure it was not the whole grade. Based on current experiences I’m sure it’s a group of boys that probably misbehaves repeatedly and noone was surprised that they did it. Anyone familiar with this verify that that’s pretty much the truth? I find it hard to believe that a whole grade would participate in such a thing. Just like I find it hard to believe a whole grade at Georgetown prep participated in all those things. It was probably a group of the jocks or a certain type of party animal.

I agree it wasn’t the whole grade but it was a group, not just the editor. And if the group is known at the school, then why were they given this responsibility? Why weren’t the parents called in? Why did the school tolerate this? What does this say about the environment overall?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

It wasn’t just the editor. It was a group effort. That’s why it reflects so badly on the school culture. Less than five years ago.

I am sure it was not the whole grade. Based on current experiences I’m sure it’s a group of boys that probably misbehaves repeatedly and noone was surprised that they did it. Anyone familiar with this verify that that’s pretty much the truth? I find it hard to believe that a whole grade would participate in such a thing. Just like I find it hard to believe a whole grade at Georgetown prep participated in all those things. It was probably a group of the jocks or a certain type of party animal.

It should read party animal group.

I agree with you but the quote from the EIC in the Post article is so clearly dishonest and manipulative. His parents are absolute moral and ethical failures. He frankly deserved to have his top college admissions rescinded, and for future employers to see this in his google results forever. There is no way he told the truth.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

It wasn’t just the editor. It was a group effort. That’s why it reflects so badly on the school culture. Less than five years ago.

I am sure it was not the whole grade. Based on current experiences I’m sure it’s a group of boys that probably misbehaves repeatedly and noone was surprised that they did it. Anyone familiar with this verify that that’s pretty much the truth? I find it hard to believe that a whole grade would participate in such a thing. Just like I find it hard to believe a whole grade at Georgetown prep participated in all those things. It was probably a group of the jocks or a certain type of party animal.

It should read party animal group.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

It wasn’t just the editor. It was a group effort. That’s why it reflects so badly on the school culture. Less than five years ago.

I am sure it was not the whole grade. Based on current experiences I’m sure it’s a group of boys that probably misbehaves repeatedly and noone was surprised that they did it. Anyone familiar with this verify that that’s pretty much the truth? I find it hard to believe that a whole grade would participate in such a thing. Just like I find it hard to believe a whole grade at Georgetown prep participated in all those things. It was probably a group of the jocks or a certain type of party animal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

It wasn’t just the editor. It was a group effort. That’s why it reflects so badly on the school culture. Less than five years ago.

Anonymous wrote:“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.

The smarmy senior who edited the 2015 St A’s yearbook is an absolute shit smear. Parents raising that thing should be ashamed- they failed.

Anonymous wrote:A couple of schools have received quite a bit of bad press lately. Will it negatively impact application numbers? What happened at Landon a few years back?

They may lose progressive or liberal applicants. I know many that have said hey won’t apply now.

Anonymous wrote:Do the same people who think Georgetown Prep will take a hit also think Holton Arms will? Their yearbooks from that era were in some ways worse. There are pictures in the yearbooks of girls at parties with beer bottles. They talk about how much they partied and make references to passing out. There's a whole section titled "Why the parents were out" that discuss their alcohol infused parties including someone throwing up all over someone's parents' Persian rug. Why do those of you who judge Georgetown Prep, not judge Holton Arms for allowing the same type of sentiments to be expressed?

Sweetie - that’s not real.

Anonymous wrote:I think those of you who are saying the public schools were just like this are kind of deluding yourselves.

Not delusional at all. I graduated in 1986 from a big MoCo public school and there were parties every weekend. There was lots and lots and lots of drinking and kids hooking up. Alcohol was very easy to get and even though our class missed the grandfather clause for legally drinking, we were close enough to the age so fake ids were easy to come by. I used to go to Georgetown with a fake ID when I was 15-17 and never had a problem getting into bars. I was far from alone in doing this.

The delusion is people who use today’s standards to judge a generation from 30 years ago.

It wasn’t all blow out parties and fun. I lost some friends to drunk driving. MADD really stepped up and changed the laws.

“Indeed, just three years ago, St. Albans School, an elite all-boys school in D.C., was embroiled in scandal involving student misconduct. Girls at its sister school, National Cathedral School, collected a Google document full of allegations of of unwanted sexual advances at parties and inappropriate comments by St. Albans boys as part of an effort to design new prevention programs. That prompted a flurry of online posts from the boys that school officials called "inappropriate." Later the same year, St. Albans had to recall its yearbooks after discovering seniors had included crude and sexist slurs.“
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/05/654775614/kavanaugh-allegations-prompt-some-prep-schools-to-examine-their-culture


Sounds like not much has changed in 40 years.