Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:57
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
What are your predictions of how this map is going to change? They never stay exactly as proposed. So what gives here?
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:54
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
+1
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:47
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:46
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
We now have 3 schools that are almost entirely low income. Randolph, carlin springs, and Drew. I'm so tired of fake SJW "liberals" who quietly lobby the school board to produce segregationist plans like this one. And the school board goes along. No wonder the longtime Nauck civic assn president endorsed vihstadt.
Right there with you, PP!
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:41
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:34
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:33
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:32
Subject: Re:APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To crudely summarize:
Winners:
Henry families/homeowners south of Columbia Pike, now zoned to Fleet
Barcroft and Alcova Heights- Barcroft is getting Giliam Place, but losing the Barcroft Apartments, which seems like it should be a reduction in FARMS rates.
Oakridge- gets rid of Pentagon City apartments, which presumably had more transience.
Nertual:
Hoffman-Boston- getting Pentagon City and Fort Myer should be a good thing, but the current program seems to serve the existing community well. Will be interesting to see how H-B adapts to a different population.
Losers:
Kids at Drew- who will be stuck with a school with a ridiculous FARMS rate for Arlington.
Nauck- Sending part of Barcroft Apartments to Drew is unconscionable.
Columbia Forest- They sat through the Abingdon renovation and are now being jettisoned like yesterdays fish. And moving them now would keep them out of Claremont, if it becomes a neighborhood school in the next round, right?
It’s pretty clear from this map that they’re not moving immersion anywhere. Half the potential Claremont walk zone, including the unit with Claremont itself, are zoned to Drew in his map. If they keep this arrangement and then make Claremont neighborhood, they end up with an ASFS-style situation where the school sits outside its own zone, and APS is not going there again.
And the idea of making Claremont neighborhood was to make Carlin Springs immersion, bus kids south of 50 to a school north of 50 and find other ways to Keep the FARMS rate lower at some s Arlington. Schools. It was bold but the freshest idea APS had in a long time. Now we are back to a ridiculous map that caves to Henry families south of the Pike.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:29
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:24
Subject: Re:APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:To crudely summarize:
Winners:
Henry families/homeowners south of Columbia Pike, now zoned to Fleet
Barcroft and Alcova Heights- Barcroft is getting Giliam Place, but losing the Barcroft Apartments, which seems like it should be a reduction in FARMS rates.
Oakridge- gets rid of Pentagon City apartments, which presumably had more transience.
Nertual:
Hoffman-Boston- getting Pentagon City and Fort Myer should be a good thing, but the current program seems to serve the existing community well. Will be interesting to see how H-B adapts to a different population.
Losers:
Kids at Drew- who will be stuck with a school with a ridiculous FARMS rate for Arlington.
Nauck- Sending part of Barcroft Apartments to Drew is unconscionable.
Columbia Forest- They sat through the Abingdon renovation and are now being jettisoned like yesterdays fish. And moving them now would keep them out of Claremont, if it becomes a neighborhood school in the next round, right?
It’s pretty clear from this map that they’re not moving immersion anywhere. Half the potential Claremont walk zone, including the unit with Claremont itself, are zoned to Drew in his map. If they keep this arrangement and then make Claremont neighborhood, they end up with an ASFS-style situation where the school sits outside its own zone, and APS is not going there again.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:23
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:21
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Also, can someone explain the logic as to why planning unit 46101 is in the walk zone for Fleet, but 46100 is not?? Are they really going to bus kids from 46100??
Looks like they are trying to make a contiguous path to ft myer. I don’t know why, unless they plan to change the policy that the ft myer kids can go to Henry.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:13
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Anonymous
09/26/2018 22:13
Subject: Re:APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
To crudely summarize:
Winners:
Henry families/homeowners south of Columbia Pike, now zoned to Fleet
Barcroft and Alcova Heights- Barcroft is getting Giliam Place, but losing the Barcroft Apartments, which seems like it should be a reduction in FARMS rates.
Oakridge- gets rid of Pentagon City apartments, which presumably had more transience.
Nertual:
Hoffman-Boston- getting Pentagon City and Fort Myer should be a good thing, but the current program seems to serve the existing community well. Will be interesting to see how H-B adapts to a different population.
Losers:
Kids at Drew- who will be stuck with a school with a ridiculous FARMS rate for Arlington.
Nauck- Sending part of Barcroft Apartments to Drew is unconscionable.
Columbia Forest- They sat through the Abingdon renovation and are now being jettisoned like yesterdays fish. And moving them now would keep them out of Claremont, if it becomes a neighborhood school in the next round, right?
Winners:
Henry families/homeowners south of Columbia Pike, now zoned to Fleet
Barcroft and Alcova Heights- Barcroft is getting Giliam Place, but losing the Barcroft Apartments, which seems like it should be a reduction in FARMS rates.
Oakridge- gets rid of Pentagon City apartments, which presumably had more transience.
Nertual:
Hoffman-Boston- getting Pentagon City and Fort Myer should be a good thing, but the current program seems to serve the existing community well. Will be interesting to see how H-B adapts to a different population.
Losers:
Kids at Drew- who will be stuck with a school with a ridiculous FARMS rate for Arlington.
Nauck- Sending part of Barcroft Apartments to Drew is unconscionable.
Columbia Forest- They sat through the Abingdon renovation and are now being jettisoned like yesterdays fish. And moving them now would keep them out of Claremont, if it becomes a neighborhood school in the next round, right?
Anonymous
09/26/2018 21:59
Subject: APS/SA boundary redrawing - meeting tonight
Also, can someone explain the logic as to why planning unit 46101 is in the walk zone for Fleet, but 46100 is not?? Are they really going to bus kids from 46100??