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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

Nope. Obamacare survives. Many climate rules survives due to Major blue states regulations still following Obama rules. Universal healthcare is coming one way or another sooner or later. LGBTQ rights CANT be rolled back. Abortion rights is the law. Except for tax cuts for the wealthy WHICH dems increase when they come to power there is nothing that the GOP has to show. Dems make long term directional changes to the country. The country moves to the beat of progressives. Learn to live with it.

Obamacare cost the Democrats dearly... and we will have insanely high costs, no public option. and while the law has saved me, personally, from financial ruin, bolder measures would have been so much better.

Are you so sure that progressives move the country? You know Republicans don’t actually care about LGBTQ issues or abortion, right? Those are wedge issues they use to rile up the rubes, and once the “culture” changes, they find a new wedge issue to rile up their base, like immigration. They care about making the rich richer while the rest of us schmucks work harder and harder for the same leftover scraps. Income inequality has increased so dramatically and so little has been done about it. And now politicians are basically bought by the highest bidder.

I think the Republicans won what they really wanted. And I think that many Democrats are in on it too.

The public loves Obamacare and thats why the GOP couldn't undo it. You are delusional.

Republicans have no policy but the tax cuts for the rich. the democrats have healthcare, education, equal pay, minimum wage increase etc. The GOP cheats its voters and riles them up with white identity politics. The democratic party caters to the poor and middle class MUCH MORE THAN the GOP.

Ok, why are you being so aggressive and calling me delusional? You can't even be polite to someone on your side? I am one of the few liberals I know who thought Trump really could win the presidency, so maybe I am less "delusional" than you think. Democrats comfort themselves with the same things: we won gay marriage, demographics are on our side, all Republicans do is cut taxes for the rich. Yes, all Republicans want to do is cut taxes for the rich, and they are extremely successful at it! They don't really CARE about the cultural issues that Democrats "win," those are a means to an end. Meanwhile Democrats are letting organized labor languish (when is the last time you heard of a right to work state becoming non right to work again), courts Wall Street and Silicon Valley, proposes nothing but half-measures and half-fixes, and follows along with the Republicans' garbage foreign policy and military spending. The public does not "love" Obamacare. Obamacare was a minimal band aid to a failing health system, and many people recognize that. Of course Democrats cater to the poor and middle class much more than the GOP, if my cat were a politician he could manage to cater to the poor and middle class more than the GOP.

2004 was most likely won on the wedge issue of gay marriage amendments

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

Nope. Obamacare survives. Many climate rules survives due to Major blue states regulations still following Obama rules. Universal healthcare is coming one way or another sooner or later. LGBTQ rights CANT be rolled back. Abortion rights is the law. Except for tax cuts for the wealthy WHICH dems increase when they come to power there is nothing that the GOP has to show. Dems make long term directional changes to the country. The country moves to the beat of progressives. Learn to live with it.

Obamacare cost the Democrats dearly... and we will have insanely high costs, no public option. and while the law has saved me, personally, from financial ruin, bolder measures would have been so much better.

Are you so sure that progressives move the country? You know Republicans don’t actually care about LGBTQ issues or abortion, right? Those are wedge issues they use to rile up the rubes, and once the “culture” changes, they find a new wedge issue to rile up their base, like immigration. They care about making the rich richer while the rest of us schmucks work harder and harder for the same leftover scraps. Income inequality has increased so dramatically and so little has been done about it. And now politicians are basically bought by the highest bidder.

I think the Republicans won what they really wanted. And I think that many Democrats are in on it too.

The funny thing about Obamacare is that it's never been more popular. OH, wait, that's ACA not Obamacare /s (I was being sarcastic). It's so popular that a majority R congress couldn't repeal it.

Income inequality is being exacerbated by the tax cuts which gave a much bigger cut to the top earners, and smaller as income goes down.

I agree politicians are bought on both sides, but it was the Rs who fought against campaign finance reform, which conservative SCOTUS also sided with, that the Dems tried to push.

E-verify has been fought by both sides -- years ago, Tea Party fought against it; and now in FL a rich GOP donor fought against it along with the Koch brothers. Liberals may care too much about illegal immigrants, but they aren't two-faced about it like the Rs.

Progressive CA does lead the country in many ways, especially in environmental regulations (which a R governor in CA championed), and lgbtq rights

But I agree, Rs will use these things as wedge issues and rile up their base to vote R.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

Nope. Obamacare survives. Many climate rules survives due to Major blue states regulations still following Obama rules. Universal healthcare is coming one way or another sooner or later. LGBTQ rights CANT be rolled back. Abortion rights is the law. Except for tax cuts for the wealthy WHICH dems increase when they come to power there is nothing that the GOP has to show. Dems make long term directional changes to the country. The country moves to the beat of progressives. Learn to live with it.

Obamacare cost the Democrats dearly... and we will have insanely high costs, no public option. and while the law has saved me, personally, from financial ruin, bolder measures would have been so much better.

Are you so sure that progressives move the country? You know Republicans don’t actually care about LGBTQ issues or abortion, right? Those are wedge issues they use to rile up the rubes, and once the “culture” changes, they find a new wedge issue to rile up their base, like immigration. They care about making the rich richer while the rest of us schmucks work harder and harder for the same leftover scraps. Income inequality has increased so dramatically and so little has been done about it. And now politicians are basically bought by the highest bidder.

I think the Republicans won what they really wanted. And I think that many Democrats are in on it too.

The public loves Obamacare and thats why the GOP couldn't undo it. You are delusional.

Republicans have no policy but the tax cuts for the rich. the democrats have healthcare, education, equal pay, minimum wage increase etc. The GOP cheats its voters and riles them up with white identity politics. The democratic party caters to the poor and middle class MUCH MORE THAN the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

Nope. Obamacare survives. Many climate rules survives due to Major blue states regulations still following Obama rules. Universal healthcare is coming one way or another sooner or later. LGBTQ rights CANT be rolled back. Abortion rights is the law. Except for tax cuts for the wealthy WHICH dems increase when they come to power there is nothing that the GOP has to show. Dems make long term directional changes to the country. The country moves to the beat of progressives. Learn to live with it.

Obamacare cost the Democrats dearly... and we will have insanely high costs, no public option. and while the law has saved me, personally, from financial ruin, bolder measures would have been so much better.

Are you so sure that progressives move the country? You know Republicans don’t actually care about LGBTQ issues or abortion, right? Those are wedge issues they use to rile up the rubes, and once the “culture” changes, they find a new wedge issue to rile up their base, like immigration. They care about making the rich richer while the rest of us schmucks work harder and harder for the same leftover scraps. Income inequality has increased so dramatically and so little has been done about it. And now politicians are basically bought by the highest bidder.

I think the Republicans won what they really wanted. And I think that many Democrats are in on it too.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

Nope. Obamacare survives. Many climate rules survives due to Major blue states regulations still following Obama rules. Universal healthcare is coming one way or another sooner or later. LGBTQ rights CANT be rolled back. Abortion rights is the law. Except for tax cuts for the wealthy WHICH dems increase when they come to power there is nothing that the GOP has to show. Dems make long term directional changes to the country. The country moves to the beat of progressives. Learn to live with it.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

Your fixation with the popular vote is meaningless. The vaunted millennial is not living up to their reputations and not voting. They talk, text, blog, and tweet, make signs and hats- but don’t vote. Lucy and the football.

You are in denial. Trumps approval has dropped in almost every state. GOP vote share has dropped by avg 10 points in every election since 2016 in every state. White vote share drops by 2% in every 4 years. Millenials are voting and even if they don’t vote loss of white electorate is a net loss for gop.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

Ok, so I agree with you that the Democrats are right about these issues- however when it is time to put the pedal to the metal, they f it up!

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

Your fixation with the popular vote is meaningless. The vaunted millennial is not living up to their reputations and not voting. They talk, text, blog, and tweet, make signs and hats- but don’t vote. Lucy and the football.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

The democrats are on the right side of healthcare(millenials and minorities want universal healthcare), right side of hourly wage increase, right side of equal pay, right side of climate change, right side on abortion, right side on LGBTQ rights, right side on taxing the rich and more spending on education, right side on Dreamers, right side on worker re-training etc.

There is not a single issue the GOP can get the millenials or the minorities or even the working class whites. All they have is demagoguery and inciting white identity politics and tax cuts for the rich. Everyone knows this and that’s why the GOP can no longer win popular cites. The party is driving itself into the ground with Trump. How do you think they will get the popular vote? Pleas explain with rationale.

As opposed to the republicans who are completely incapable of any governance at all

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Anonymous wrote:We all know CA and NY will vote R. There populations can grow to epic proportions and Dems will get those votes, but the entire electoral map must be conquered.

The popular vote doesn’t win the presidency.

Until that changes it’s a non-issue, as much as it means to some people here. Let’s deal with reality, not wishes and whatabout. It’s maddening to argue a point that has no real world ramifications in this context.

The ones who are not dealing with reality are the ones who don’t understand how the odds are against someone to keep losing the popular vote while somehow winning the EC. It is not gonna happen. As it is VA,CO,NV,NM has already become blue. NC,GA,FL and AZ are on the way to becoming blue.

WI,MI and PA have already swung hard against the GOP. The GOP has lost the bite share in every single election since 2016. The future isn’t so good unless the party gets on board with millennial (minority majority generation) issues such as universal healthcare, Climate change etc.

We have been saying this since 2010 at least. Come on! Demographics doesn’t matter unless people VOTE!

Even with low rate of Hispanic and millennial voting the GOP can’t win the popular vote. They will eventually vote. Every election the white percent of electorate comes down 2-3%. How are they gonna compensate the loss if they are driving ALL minorities and women into the hands of democrats?

For one thing, the Democrats always manage to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve taken a losing position on immigration after being relatively moderate until their donors in Silicon Valley told them to support immigration policies which normal people HATE. Do you think that someone who becomes a citizen after going through a completely onerous immigration process is going to support making life easier for illegal immigrants? NO. Every time they are in power they are toothless in supporting organized labor or holding Silicon Valley accountable. They just let everyone down.

Oh I forgot to mention Wall Street.