Anonymous
06/14/2018 21:02
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:
Oh. So the stuff that you are buying off of Teachers Pay Teachers or whatever is “true curriculum” but this isn’t?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/index.html
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/units/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/share/ccsc/uos/resources/math/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/Lesson_Plan_3_OA_C_7_Mulitply_and_Divide.docx
Those are standards and "lesson seeds". A curriculum is the actual work you have the students do every single day.
Heaven help the substitute teacher who shows up to teach your class and all you have left for her is the MD state standard and "lesson seed"! You have to have the actual work -- worksheets, lesson materials, readings, exercises, activities -- in order to teach every day.
Experienced teachers can (and usually want to) take the standards and lesson seeds, and can create their own curriculum from those and from knowledge of what skills the students are expected to master. But it takes time to craft these. Several hours per hour of instruction, if you are creating them all yourself.
My school district provides a daily curriculum, i.e. "it is Tuesday, say this and have the kids do this". It's not great but new teachers find it reassuring to at least have a start.
Some school districts provide textbooks that have most of the curriculum. When I was in high school we had teachers who just basically followed the text book and gave assignments from the workbooks. It was better than nothing. But the best teachers created their own cirriculum (but were then allowed to teach the same thing year after year. They didn't have to write the curriculum every year,)
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:56
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
ESL
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:43
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
That isn't curriculum despite the label!!! That's just a bunch of educational jargon and a list of activities. Totally different than true curriculum!
Oh. So the stuff that you are buying off of Teachers Pay Teachers or whatever is “true curriculum” but this isn’t?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/index.html
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/units/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/share/ccsc/uos/resources/math/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/Lesson_Plan_3_OA_C_7_Mulitply_and_Divide.docx
I don't teach math so I can't comment on this. My subject area has no curriculum.
What is your subject area?
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:38
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
That isn't curriculum despite the label!!! That's just a bunch of educational jargon and a list of activities. Totally different than true curriculum!
Oh. So the stuff that you are buying off of Teachers Pay Teachers or whatever is “true curriculum” but this isn’t?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/index.html
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/units/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/share/ccsc/uos/resources/math/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/Lesson_Plan_3_OA_C_7_Mulitply_and_Divide.docx
I don't teach math so I can't comment on this. My subject area has no curriculum.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:22
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:I'm in a suburb near DC. We have reading and math curriculum. Nothing else. Highly desirable suburb.
Well, it’s not Fairfax County. Which one is it?
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:21
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:They don't see it as a lie because to the district leadership, the standards ARE the curriculum. But that isn't curriculum and no we don't have any.
There is a point when teachers need to say no to teaching under such conditions or else it just doesn’t get better.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:19
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
I'm in a suburb near DC. We have reading and math curriculum. Nothing else. Highly desirable suburb.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:17
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
They don't see it as a lie because to the district leadership, the standards ARE the curriculum. But that isn't curriculum and no we don't have any.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:16
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
That isn't curriculum despite the label!!! That's just a bunch of educational jargon and a list of activities. Totally different than true curriculum!
Oh. So the stuff that you are buying off of Teachers Pay Teachers or whatever is “true curriculum” but this isn’t?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/index.html
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/mathematics/units/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/share/ccsc/uos/resources/math/gr3_multiply_divide_within_100/Lesson_Plan_3_OA_C_7_Mulitply_and_Divide.docx
Anonymous
06/14/2018 20:05
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:District 45 in Illinois.
Sounds like you should speak with someone in your curriculum department. Here's their contact info: https://www.d45.org/domain/30
Hers some info about your new math materials: https://www.d45.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=43&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=3084&PageID=1
Never said we didn't have math. Just cause there's lots of people in a curriculum department doesn't mean we have curriculum. We are told "The standards are our curriculum and create everything from scratch". It's why I'm retiring soon. I'm being paid to do 1 full time job (teach) but required to do 2 full time jobs (teach and write curriculum). I know you want to be right, but you just aren't. We don't have any reading, writing, science or social studies curriculum. Teachers write it all or buy it themselves.
Are you are saying that this statement that is in large font on the curriculum page is a lie?
“School District 45 provides a comprehensive curriculum within the core subjects of language arts, mathematics, science, and social studies.”
Anonymous
06/14/2018 19:59
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
That isn't curriculum despite the label!!! That's just a bunch of educational jargon and a list of activities. Totally different than true curriculum!
Anonymous
06/14/2018 19:59
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
Nope. No curriculum. Just standards.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 19:56
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:District 45 in Illinois.
Sounds like you should speak with someone in your curriculum department. Here's their contact info: https://www.d45.org/domain/30
Hers some info about your new math materials: https://www.d45.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=43&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=3084&PageID=1
Never said we didn't have math. Just cause there's lots of people in a curriculum department doesn't mean we have curriculum. We are told "The standards are our curriculum and create everything from scratch". It's why I'm retiring soon. I'm being paid to do 1 full time job (teach) but required to do 2 full time jobs (teach and write curriculum). I know you want to be right, but you just aren't. We don't have any reading, writing, science or social studies curriculum. Teachers write it all or buy it themselves.
Anonymous
06/14/2018 19:14
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No I meant that I purchase actual curriculum. We have none, zip, zero for science, social studies, writing and reading. None.
Same here. I probably spent around $400 this year on curriculum.
Which school district?
Think of a large urban district in Maryland.
You do have curriculum. Why don't you know about this?
http://mdk12.msde.maryland.gov/instruction/curriculum/
Anonymous
06/14/2018 19:10
Subject: Re:Why These 18 Oklahoma Teachers Are Quitting Their Jobs
Anonymous wrote:District 45 in Illinois.
Sounds like you should speak with someone in your curriculum department. Here's their contact info: https://www.d45.org/domain/30
Hers some info about your new math materials: https://www.d45.org/site/default.aspx?PageType=3&DomainID=4&ModuleInstanceID=43&ViewID=6446EE88-D30C-497E-9316-3F8874B3E108&RenderLoc=0&FlexDataID=3084&PageID=1