Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

My 75 year old mother can still remember my IQ test scores from when I was 11, some 40 years ago.

My mom had no clue what my grades, courses or scores were.

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

My 75 year old mother can still remember my IQ test scores from when I was 11, some 40 years ago.

DD, in state, 1400 SAT's, 4.22 WGPA (final). At W&M (ED).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD had a 4.0W and 1460 SAT, varsity captain, national art awards, strong unique extracurriculars. She is at NYU.

What is this, exactly? when I googled it I got links to philanthropic awards where people have donated money. Please enlighten. Thanks.

Scholastic Gold Keys. Regional not national, my mistake.

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

It's all on line for us now and easily accessible in one place. We are in an information rich society that our parents never even imagined.

Anonymous wrote:Straight As, attends Blair math/science magnet (MCPS).

1580 SATs

10 APs, scored all 5s.

Plays musical instrument, has won many competitions and plays in local youth orchestra.

Going to UMD-CP.

I know this poster is probably long gone but I would love to know how their child is faring at UMD-CP!

Anonymous wrote:DD had a 4.0W and 1460 SAT, varsity captain, national art awards, strong unique extracurriculars. She is at NYU.

What is this, exactly? when I googled it I got links to philanthropic awards where people have donated money. Please enlighten. Thanks.

DD had a 4.0W and 1460 SAT, varsity captain, national art awards, strong unique extracurriculars. She is at NYU.

DD is a student at Johns Hopkins. She was nationally-recognized in writing, writing tutoring, student ambassadors, and piano while logging 500+ leadership hours and research at the local university. She had a 34 ACT and a 3.98 UW/4.42 W. She's really happy at Hopkins. The students are incredibly driven and collaborative and the resources there are amazing. We're so excited it made it to No. 9 because it deserves every accolade!

Anonymous wrote:"They don't get in as an athlete with a GPA that low."

If you're talking about a 3.5 GPA - Not low at all, in the context of NESCAC or IVY recruiting, if accompanied by:
1. A coach's support, or slot, if needed and available
2. A high-end independent school. At St. Albans, Sidwell, Maret, Georgetown Day - a 3.5 is above the middle of the class and is usually accompanied by a 1400+ SAT score.
3. A 1400+ SAT score (see above).

A 3.5 GPA, together with those other things, will get a recruited athlete into any school (including HYP) that recruits - assuming the kid has the athletic talent they're looking for.

Whoever you are talking to left 2 years ago.

"They don't get in as an athlete with a GPA that low."

If you're talking about a 3.5 GPA - Not low at all, in the context of NESCAC or IVY recruiting, if accompanied by:
1. A coach's support, or slot, if needed and available
2. A high-end independent school. At St. Albans, Sidwell, Maret, Georgetown Day - a 3.5 is above the middle of the class and is usually accompanied by a 1400+ SAT score.
3. A 1400+ SAT score (see above).

A 3.5 GPA, together with those other things, will get a recruited athlete into any school (including HYP) that recruits - assuming the kid has the athletic talent they're looking for.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

Excellent point

Well, back then, I was able to pay for Boston College mostly by myself. I worked 40 hours during the summer, 15 during the school year, and took out a small loan. Upon graduating I was also easily able to get a nice, white collar job with benefits with my political science/English major. BC now costs $75K/year, and I doubt I’d even be considered for the job today. I agree there are some over the top people here but the landscape is sooo much different than we were kids so these comparisons are a bit futile IMO...

Then I think we should all be brave enough to decide that it’s more important for our kids to learn to run their own lives than to get into the colleges we attended. If my kid can only win the science fair if I do most of his project for him, I’d rather my kid not win the science fair.

You are conflating knowing your kid’s academic profile with creating it for him.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

Excellent point

Well, back then, I was able to pay for Boston College mostly by myself. I worked 40 hours during the summer, 15 during the school year, and took out a small loan. Upon graduating I was also easily able to get a nice, white collar job with benefits with my political science/English major. BC now costs $75K/year, and I doubt I’d even be considered for the job today. I agree there are some over the top people here but the landscape is sooo much different than we were kids so these comparisons are a bit futile IMO...

Then I think we should all be brave enough to decide that it’s more important for our kids to learn to run their own lives than to get into the colleges we attended. If my kid can only win the science fair if I do most of his project for him, I’d rather my kid not win the science fair.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think back to when you were a kid, and ask yourself whether your parents knew your exact GPA, exact SAT score, and number and score on all APs. No, they didn’t. We pitied those few, stressed, overmanaged kids. Is EVERYONE like this now? And we wonder what’s so wrong with young adults?

Excellent point

Well, back then, I was able to pay for Boston College mostly by myself. I worked 40 hours during the summer, 15 during the school year, and took out a small loan. Upon graduating I was also easily able to get a nice, white collar job with benefits with my political science/English major. BC now costs $75K/year, and I doubt I’d even be considered for the job today. I agree there are some over the top people here but the landscape is sooo much different than we were kids so these comparisons are a bit futile IMO...