Anonymous wrote:So i looked this up out of interest.
In 2015 there were approx. 8200 babies born to women 45 and older in the US. (from CDC).

That same year there were a total of 22,709 donor IVF cycles started in the US with a success rate of 60% that year so about 13,700 donor egg babies. (This is the data from SART--society assisted reproductive technology--which includes the data of 80% of US fertility clinics).
How many of these are to women 45 and older? I'd estimate a half? 6850 babies. So you're talking about 1-2K naturally conceived babies over age 45 in the US. That's a very, very small number. Heck, 8K is a very, very small number when the overall number of births was 3.9 million.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because someone makes movies does not give the public the right to know every detail of their private lives. Rachel doesn't seem like the actress to seek media attention...she and Daniel do not owe anyone an explanation as to how they conceived their baby.

On a personal note, I have twins. Random people would ask me if I conceived them naturally -- I was dumbstruck by their audacity to ask me such a personal question. In this day and age, some people have no boundaries and respect for personal matters.

weisz and craig certainly don't owe anyone an explanation... but they chose careers whose whole point and the mark of ultimate success is to become a household name. so yes, people are going to speculate about their lives. given the number of people who are trying to become famous it's seems that's generally perceived as a small price to pay.

Anonymous wrote:So i looked this up out of interest.
In 2015 there were approx. 8200 babies born to women 45 and older in the US. (from CDC).

That same year there were a total of 22,709 donor IVF cycles started in the US with a success rate of 60% that year so about 13,700 donor egg babies. (This is the data from SART--society assisted reproductive technology--which includes the data of 80% of US fertility clinics).
How many of these are to women 45 and older? I'd estimate a half? 6850 babies. So you're talking about 1-2K naturally conceived babies over age 45 in the US. That's a very, very small number. Heck, 8K is a very, very small number when the overall number of births was 3.9 million.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate when celebrities are honest about their fertility circumstances, but it really isn’t any of our business.

I actually would not be surprised if this were a natural pregnancy. Do you really think she would have tried for 8 years with treatments...or put off trying, if they wanted kids together?

How do you know they didn't try naturally for the past 8 years and then turned to donor eggs? I have a friend who did this--got married at 40, tried naturally from age 40 to 44, including several "natural cycle" IVF cycles. Started the donor egg process at 45 and finally conceived at 46ish.

The thing is, you just don't know what happened.

Maybe she never thought she wanted another kid and then recently held a newborn and thought, "wow, I really want another kid" and decided to go for it and went straight to donor egg.
Who knows.

I work in a fertility clinic. It makes me a bit squeamish when people recount all the tales of "natural pregnancies at age 48 or 49. Sure, these conceptions happen but they're exceedingly rare. The vast majority of women will have difficulty conceiving at any time past the very early 40s. Many will see a marked decline in
fertility past age 39 or 40. Many will never have success in conceiving a baby. We see SO many women who have no idea that they won't be able to conceive at 41 or 42 or 43 (let alone 45+). They believe that fertility will last until 45+ because this is increasingly how it's portrayed in the media. However, it just doesn't.
And there are thousands upon thousands of donor egg cycles done in the US each year. A large number in places like NYC and California. Most (not all) of these pregnancies are never revealed as donor egg to anyone. We see a ton of women who don't even tell their mothers or sisters. It's a insanely secretive process. Anyway, you
just never know. Celebrities aren't miraculously super fertile. What they have going for them is money and ability to seek care.

people you seen in a fertility clinic are those struggling to conceive. what you are not seeing are all the older women who conceive naturally (many of them abort). your perspective is skewed... not saying it is easy or probably that one can get pregnant at 45 but it is definitely more common than fertility industry portrays it to be.

Anonymous wrote:So i looked this up out of interest.
In 2015 there were approx. 8200 babies born to women 45 and older in the US. (from CDC).

That same year there were a total of 22,709 donor IVF cycles started in the US with a success rate of 60% that year so about 13,700 donor egg babies. (This is the data from SART--society assisted reproductive technology--which includes the data of 80% of US fertility clinics).
How many of these are to women 45 and older? I'd estimate a half? 6850 babies. So you're talking about 1-2K naturally conceived babies over age 45 in the US. That's a very, very small number. Heck, 8K is a very, very small number when the overall number of births was 3.9 million.

Anonymous wrote:Just because someone makes movies does not give the public the right to know every detail of their private lives. Rachel doesn't seem like the actress to seek media attention...she and Daniel do not owe anyone an explanation as to how they conceived their baby.

On a personal note, I have twins. Random people would ask me if I conceived them naturally -- I was dumbstruck by their audacity to ask me such a personal question. In this day and age, some people have no boundaries and respect for personal matters.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate when celebrities are honest about their fertility circumstances, but it really isn’t any of our business.

I actually would not be surprised if this were a natural pregnancy. Do you really think she would have tried for 8 years with treatments...or put off trying, if they wanted kids together?

How do you know they didn't try naturally for the past 8 years and then turned to donor eggs? I have a friend who did this--got married at 40, tried naturally from age 40 to 44, including several "natural cycle" IVF cycles. Started the donor egg process at 45 and finally conceived at 46ish.

The thing is, you just don't know what happened.

Maybe she never thought she wanted another kid and then recently held a newborn and thought, "wow, I really want another kid" and decided to go for it and went straight to donor egg.
Who knows.

I work in a fertility clinic. It makes me a bit squeamish when people recount all the tales of "natural pregnancies at age 48 or 49. Sure, these conceptions happen but they're exceedingly rare. The vast majority of women will have difficulty conceiving at any time past the very early 40s. Many will see a marked decline in
fertility past age 39 or 40. Many will never have success in conceiving a baby. We see SO many women who have no idea that they won't be able to conceive at 41 or 42 or 43 (let alone 45+). They believe that fertility will last until 45+ because this is increasingly how it's portrayed in the media. However, it just doesn't.
And there are thousands upon thousands of donor egg cycles done in the US each year. A large number in places like NYC and California. Most (not all) of these pregnancies are never revealed as donor egg to anyone. We see a ton of women who don't even tell their mothers or sisters. It's a insanely secretive process. Anyway, you
just never know. Celebrities aren't miraculously super fertile. What they have going for them is money and ability to seek care.

people you seen in a fertility clinic are those struggling to conceive. what you are not seeing are all the older women who conceive naturally (many of them abort). your perspective is skewed... not saying it is easy or probably that one can get pregnant at 45 but it is definitely more common than fertility industry portrays it to be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate when celebrities are honest about their fertility circumstances, but it really isn’t any of our business.

I actually would not be surprised if this were a natural pregnancy. Do you really think she would have tried for 8 years with treatments...or put off trying, if they wanted kids together?

How do you know they didn't try naturally for the past 8 years and then turned to donor eggs? I have a friend who did this--got married at 40, tried naturally from age 40 to 44, including several "natural cycle" IVF cycles. Started the donor egg process at 45 and finally conceived at 46ish.

The thing is, you just don't know what happened.

Maybe she never thought she wanted another kid and then recently held a newborn and thought, "wow, I really want another kid" and decided to go for it and went straight to donor egg.
Who knows.

I work in a fertility clinic. It makes me a bit squeamish when people recount all the tales of "natural pregnancies at age 48 or 49. Sure, these conceptions happen but they're exceedingly rare. The vast majority of women will have difficulty conceiving at any time past the very early 40s. Many will see a marked decline in
fertility past age 39 or 40. Many will never have success in conceiving a baby. We see SO many women who have no idea that they won't be able to conceive at 41 or 42 or 43 (let alone 45+). They believe that fertility will last until 45+ because this is increasingly how it's portrayed in the media. However, it just doesn't.
And there are thousands upon thousands of donor egg cycles done in the US each year. A large number in places like NYC and California. Most (not all) of these pregnancies are never revealed as donor egg to anyone. We see a ton of women who don't even tell their mothers or sisters. It's a insanely secretive process. Anyway, you
just never know. Celebrities aren't miraculously super fertile. What they have going for them is money and ability to seek care.

Anonymous wrote:If it was a natural pregnancy more power to her. I just think these celebrities should publicly announce that they use donor eggs, if they do only because many ordinary women look up to them (unfortunately). This gives women a false impression and hope that they will be fertile in their 40s when the reality is mostly the opposite of that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciate when celebrities are honest about their fertility circumstances, but it really isn’t any of our business.

I actually would not be surprised if this were a natural pregnancy. Do you really think she would have tried for 8 years with treatments...or put off trying, if they wanted kids together?

How do you know they didn't try naturally for the past 8 years and then turned to donor eggs? I have a friend who did this--got married at 40, tried naturally from age 40 to 44, including several "natural cycle" IVF cycles. Started the donor egg process at 45 and finally conceived at 46ish.

The thing is, you just don't know what happened.

Maybe she never thought she wanted another kid and then recently held a newborn and thought, "wow, I really want another kid" and decided to go for it and went straight to donor egg.
Who knows.

I work in a fertility clinic. It makes me a bit squeamish when people recount all the tales of "natural pregnancies at age 48 or 49. Sure, these conceptions happen but they're exceedingly rare. The vast majority of women will have difficulty conceiving at any time past the very early 40s. Many will see a marked decline in
fertility past age 39 or 40. Many will never have success in conceiving a baby. We see SO many women who have no idea that they won't be able to conceive at 41 or 42 or 43 (let alone 45+). They believe that fertility will last until 45+ because this is increasingly how it's portrayed in the media. However, it just doesn't.
And there are thousands upon thousands of donor egg cycles done in the US each year. A large number in places like NYC and California. Most (not all) of these pregnancies are never revealed as donor egg to anyone. We see a ton of women who don't even tell their mothers or sisters. It's a insanely secretive process. Anyway, you
just never know. Celebrities aren't miraculously super fertile. What they have going for them is money and ability to seek care.