Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 16:04     Subject: Solidcore pricing

I’m predicting it won’t. The class is already so expensive that a couple dollars won’t move the needle. I’m surprised that it has taken off with a lot younger people for that reason. But what always gets me is the number of people willing to late cancel.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:30     Subject: Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:I go to Bethesda and some studios in the city, the demographic is much younger in he city.


Interesting, thanks! Yeah, very curious to see how these pricing changes will affect their younger customers in particular. I definitely couldn't have afforded it at their ages.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:25     Subject: Solidcore pricing

I go to Bethesda and some studios in the city, the demographic is much younger in he city.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:20     Subject: Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11:22, I didn't interpret your comment as a criticism of newbies but as the coaches. That's why I'm such a Ryan devotee: he's merciless AF, while also being really positive and supportive.

Torie and Artemis are very challenging, too, and with a tough love style. I'm not wild about that, but YMMV.

Where do you take that it's the young ones who are the most fit? I'm 41 and consistently one of the strongest there, and there are other women my age who are similar. Some strong younger people, too, but I don't at all feel like they set the standard. If anything, I love showing them that I can kick ass even at my advanced age!

9:00/OP


Advanced age at 41? Please!!!
I meant no disrespect and you're absolutely right. There are some 60-somethings that crush it.


I was kidding--just meant in comparison to the 20-somethings there. Was really more curious about the demographic differences between studios. And yeah, I love having people in their 50s and 60s in class!
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 14:13     Subject: Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:11:22, I didn't interpret your comment as a criticism of newbies but as the coaches. That's why I'm such a Ryan devotee: he's merciless AF, while also being really positive and supportive.

Torie and Artemis are very challenging, too, and with a tough love style. I'm not wild about that, but YMMV.

Where do you take that it's the young ones who are the most fit? I'm 41 and consistently one of the strongest there, and there are other women my age who are similar. Some strong younger people, too, but I don't at all feel like they set the standard. If anything, I love showing them that I can kick ass even at my advanced age!

9:00/OP


Advanced age at 41? Please!!!
I meant no disrespect and you're absolutely right. There are some 60-somethings that crush it.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 13:36     Subject: Solidcore pricing

11:22, I didn't interpret your comment as a criticism of newbies but as the coaches. That's why I'm such a Ryan devotee: he's merciless AF, while also being really positive and supportive.

Torie and Artemis are very challenging, too, and with a tough love style. I'm not wild about that, but YMMV.

Where do you take that it's the young ones who are the most fit? I'm 41 and consistently one of the strongest there, and there are other women my age who are similar. Some strong younger people, too, but I don't at all feel like they set the standard. If anything, I love showing them that I can kick ass even at my advanced age!

9:00/OP
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 11:22     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


Another interesting layer is with optics. In terms of class composition, I bet that these price-sensitive frequent users elevate the classes. I might be off base, but my game improves when I feel like I'm surrounded by amazingly competent badass folks taking the class. I feel a little deflated when the class is filled with newbies because I've noticed that instructors have recently started to accommodate new client needs over prioritizing challenging instruction. This may just be my experience though!


Ugh. I love solidcore but this is the kind of comment that really puts me off some of the people who go. What makes you think price-sensitive v. Price insensitive people "elevate" the class? Isolidcore classmates were likely very inviting and positive with you when you were a newbie (they were with me), but you no.longer reciprocate? If you are really as experienced as you claim, newbies don't stop you from getting a challenging workout. You know how to modify to make it harder, ask for more springs, weights, slow it down, etc. Instead of looking for the badass, be the badass. The instructors all take classes with us. And yet most of us are mewling little kittens compared to them. Yet they still come and get on their toes for moves the rest of us cannot. If it bothers you so much, just start going to the first class of the day. You are unlikely to see newbies there.


Huh- this is an interesting misinterpretation of my post. I certainly don’t mind having newbies in class. I remember being one. I sucked hard at solidcore for a good year. BUT- my instructors at that time showed no mercy. I was a mess and each class felt impossible. But that sucked me in! My concern is around how some instructors have seemed to make some classes less challenging and accommodate new people more than in the past (less demanding moves and less intense choreography). My other point was just a personal one. When I’m surrounding by young ones who are fit as hell, it pushes me harder for whatever reason. I take less pauses, keep arms up, all that good stuff. But you’re right, our amazing instructors rally around all of us without issue when they take class. On this online anonymous forum, I was just wondering whether the price change will reduce that kind of young hardcore participant. If we price out our young students, the vibe and rigor might change. Just my concern- especially in light of the price change.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 10:34     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


Another interesting layer is with optics. In terms of class composition, I bet that these price-sensitive frequent users elevate the classes. I might be off base, but my game improves when I feel like I'm surrounded by amazingly competent badass folks taking the class. I feel a little deflated when the class is filled with newbies because I've noticed that instructors have recently started to accommodate new client needs over prioritizing challenging instruction. This may just be my experience though!


Ugh. I love solidcore but this is the kind of comment that really puts me off some of the people who go. What makes you think price-sensitive v. Price insensitive people "elevate" the class? Isolidcore classmates were likely very inviting and positive with you when you were a newbie (they were with me), but you no.longer reciprocate? If you are really as experienced as you claim, newbies don't stop you from getting a challenging workout. You know how to modify to make it harder, ask for more springs, weights, slow it down, etc. Instead of looking for the badass, be the badass. The instructors all take classes with us. And yet most of us are mewling little kittens compared to them. Yet they still come and get on their toes for moves the rest of us cannot. If it bothers you so much, just start going to the first class of the day. You are unlikely to see newbies there.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2018 09:00     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


Another interesting layer is with optics. In terms of class composition, I bet that these price-sensitive frequent users elevate the classes. I might be off base, but my game improves when I feel like I'm surrounded by amazingly competent badass folks taking the class. I feel a little deflated when the class is filled with newbies because I've noticed that instructors have recently started to accommodate new client needs over prioritizing challenging instruction. This may just be my experience though!


Agreed. I’ve noticed this too.


Interesting. I haven't noticed this issue, but that's probably a function of the times and classes I take: either 6am and/or arms and abs, neither of which attract a lot of new people. The last few A&A we have had someone new, and my coach has put them next to me and told them he's putting them next to me on purpose So then I feel like such a stud I work even harder! I agree though that the dynamic changes a lot when you have tons of new people in class. Then again, there are also regulars who slack so much that it's a bummer being next to them. I don't mean taking occasional breaks, I mean like stopping multiple times to chat with the person next to you. I like being surrounded by badasses, too!

And this is also where the specific coach matters, in that some of them develop such a reputation for being challenging that people who don't want that added challenge will avoid them. Fine by me! Just as long as those coaches don't leave.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 22:55     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


Another interesting layer is with optics. In terms of class composition, I bet that these price-sensitive frequent users elevate the classes. I might be off base, but my game improves when I feel like I'm surrounded by amazingly competent badass folks taking the class. I feel a little deflated when the class is filled with newbies because I've noticed that instructors have recently started to accommodate new client needs over prioritizing challenging instruction. This may just be my experience though!


Agreed. I’ve noticed this too.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 20:18     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


Another interesting layer is with optics. In terms of class composition, I bet that these price-sensitive frequent users elevate the classes. I might be off base, but my game improves when I feel like I'm surrounded by amazingly competent badass folks taking the class. I feel a little deflated when the class is filled with newbies because I've noticed that instructors have recently started to accommodate new client needs over prioritizing challenging instruction. This may just be my experience though!
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 18:32     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:The pricing situation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Though I also recognize that a large number of people attending these classes in DC are price-insensitive. I see them fancy handbags, ladies.

The pricing change impacts the dedicated price-sensitive frequent fliers the most. I bet that they won't sell as many of those new $$ monthly packages as they did the set class packages. I'm also disappointed that there seems to be this large emphasis on expansion. When you go to the website, the main message is all about expansion and... this feels out of touch to me? I personally don't give a sh*t if they're opening a place in Minnesota, Baltimore, or Indiana. I would much prefer that they remain focused on what they already have by getting the best instructors (paying them well!), maintaining the studios AND not bumping up the rates so darn much in a disingenuous way.


This is really well said.

I also miss the days when 100 classes was a big deal; now it's like they take it for granted that they will get and keep that type of membership. (Plus, physically, I thought it was a big deal).
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 18:28     Subject: Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? I'm pissed there's no off-peak package anymore, but I used to pay $248 for an 8-pack monthly and now it's $225. Right?


I go between 9-12 times/month, so I'm not wild about either the 8-pack and 12-pack monthly. I appreciated the flexibility of the larger packs.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 18:25     Subject: Solidcore pricing

Hi, I posted earlier about the 40-pack and should have waited until I could type a longer post. I still see the 40-pack on my app which has been updated for the new classes. I emailed with the solidcore team and found out it will not be on the website. However, based on the email exchange, if you are interested in the 40-pack, I suggest you email them and ask to purchase. Like PP directly above, I'm at the point where I will be buying shortly (which would be evident to them given what I included in the email), they had an interest responding because we were talking about specific purchase options rather than general complaint about the monthly program.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2018 15:24     Subject: Re:Solidcore pricing

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone that sent an email received a response yet?


I did, but I am the off peak user who wanted to purchase bulk sessions instead of individual ones, each at a time. They said they could do that for me, I am not getting any discount, but I can get a 10 pack for $270, $27 x 10. I go several times a week, off peak only while my kids are in school, and my credit card was being declined for duplicate transactions when trying to reserve and purchase several sesssions at once.