Anonymous
03/21/2018 20:18
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
more families w/ $ at wootton than QO. not sure why you find it weired
Exactly, and combine that with the high pressure cooker environment, it shouldn't be a surprise at all.
you really think the QO white families are that much poorer than the wootton families?
Anonymous
03/21/2018 20:16
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
You have 3 million to spend on a house and you're actually considering Germantown?
Anonymous
03/21/2018 20:14
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
more families w/ $ at wootton than QO. not sure why you find it weired
Exactly, and combine that with the high pressure cooker environment, it shouldn't be a surprise at all.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 20:11
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
more families w/ $ at wootton than QO. not sure why you find it weired
because i’m not convinced the white families at QO are that much poorer than the white families at wootton.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 20:10
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
more families w/ $ at wootton than QO. not sure why you find it weired
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:40
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
The only thing I can think of is Wootton has higher expectations of its students (peer pressure) than QO.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:40
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Richard Montgomery (around 125 students are in the IB magnet)
AS 1941
B 1467
H 1547
W 1873
And 25 of them are RM cluster students.
You can’t argue with the Wooton pumpers. They can’t accept that RM is a good school. And of course even kids that aren’t in the IB program can take those classes. That means the kids there can have a very good education with a combination of AP and IB classes and they can live in an area you can walk to things.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:31
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
right. it’s a little weird, though, because i’m sure in places like kentlands there is just as much SAT prep as in the wootton neighborhoods. the discrepancy among the scores within the same racial group is weird.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:30
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
I don't think this is "normal" just to the Wootton cluster. Are you thinking that non Asians from middle to upper income families in other areas aren't prepping for SATs?
We are in the RM cluster, and you bet my kids will prep for their SATs.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:21
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
In some high schools, especially Wootton, it is very normal and extremely common to prep for the SATs. This is why SAT scores is not an adequate way to evaluate the effectiveness/success of a school.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 19:02
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
For the most part, SES is tied to test scores, but some of that can be negated by prepping for the SATs. This is what many poorer Asian students do. I don't know what the income levels of the Asian families are in QO, but there are certainly sections of QO that are more expensive than most of the Wootton cluster - Kentlands and Lakelands.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 18:56
Subject: Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^^so if you transfer your kid from Quince Orchard HS to Walt Whitman HS, their SAT scores will go up 200-300 points?
Teaching kids is nothing like turning light switches on and off. It takes time and effort. Don't be stupid.
Are you saying that the average Whitman SAT scores are higher because the teachers at Whitman are better?
The average Whitman SAT scores are higher almost certainly because the parents are smarter and intelligence is highly heritable. People on here act like household income is disconnected from intelligence. It's baffling.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 18:40
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Check out Clarksburg HS carefully before you buy there.
Which aspects of Clarksburg HS, specifically, merit careful checking-out, in your opinion?
school performance
What about it?
do your work then ask
NP here. Actually, you're the one that should do the work. Make sure you're able to back up your statements.
Clarksburg vs Wootton vs QO (check out top of page 2 scores)
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04249.pdf
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04234.pdf
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04125.pdf
Holy Sh*t. Clarksburg is no better than Gaithersburg High.
Huh? What metric are you looking at? Clarksburg is a great HS. The principal is fantastic and there are plenty, plenty of high achieving students at the school. It is very diverse if that's what you meant with your comparison to Gaithersburg.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 18:29
Subject: Re:Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:OP
If you are interested in test scores, this report has very detailed information on SAT scores broken down by school (see page 8 onwards) and within each school broken down by race (see page 12)
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/pdf/160929%20SAT%20Exam%20Participation%20Perform.pdf
Some highlights from the school people here have mentioned. :
SAT mean scores
Northwest
Asian 1719
Black 1369
Hispanic 1469
White 1661
Wootton
Asian 1897
B 1526
H 1598
W 1809
Clarksburg
AS 1708
B 1401
H 1417
W 1607
Richard Montgomery (around 125 students are in the IB magnet)
AS 1941
B 1467
H 1547
W 1873
Quince Orchard
AS 1720
B 1346
H 1503
W 1687
Walt Whitman
AS 1901
B 1561
H 1827
W 1917
I wish we have the scores by income level. As it is, the Asians and Whites do much poorly in QO and NW than Wootton. Is it because the Wootton kids are from a higher SES family?
Anonymous
03/21/2018 18:12
Subject: Good schools in Germantown MD area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^^so if you transfer your kid from Quince Orchard HS to Walt Whitman HS, their SAT scores will go up 200-300 points?
Teaching kids is nothing like turning light switches on and off. It takes time and effort. Don't be stupid.
Are you saying that the average Whitman SAT scores are higher because the teachers at Whitman are better?
They pay $200+/hr for SAT tutors
Some might be but not as many as you assume. Certainly not enough to make the median scores so different.
btw a SAT "prep" book costs <$15 on Amazon.
Also the George B. Thomas Learning Academy offers SAT prep classes. It costs $70 for an entire year of academic help for a student including tutoring for their classes for AP exams as well as test prep for SAT and ACT exams. If you qualify for FARMs it costs $40 for the entire year.