Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 11:26     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.


+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.


I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.

Statistics, please. About the burden on society.


Case in point, bottom of the barrel when it comes to homeschooling:

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/homeschooling-allowed-abuse-of-13-children-to-carry-on-undetected/news-story/742a0c146d3412ff0e7928fef58f95c6

It was homeschooling that hid much of the abuse.

Don't kid yourself that this is an isolated incident either.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 11:22     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.


+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.


I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.

Statistics, please. About the burden on society.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 11:06     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.


+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.


I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 11:05     Subject: Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Uneducated and weirdly religious. These go hand in hand.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 10:57     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.


+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:54     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:Homeschool should be regulated to assure that kids to not slip through the cracks, but the ones who are getting a good education and are following state laws should be allowed to continue. My sister homeschooled her two girls, and it was a sad thing to watch. From K-12, they had no contact with anyone unless they were relatives. When my oldest niece finally "graduated'" and got a job at 18, she didn't even know how to use a drink machine, and tried to put pennies in it. She had never seen anyone use one before. My sister had never even shown them the most simple things. Her co-workers had to explain to her how to use it, and she was very embarrassed. At some point in her life, my sister could have bought a water and shown her how. She was fired from her job for coupon fraud, because she had no sense of right or wrong. She wasn't actually taught anything. She spent years in her blacked-out room cutting herself, and my uneducated sister ignored her.

And at the high school to which my home is zoned, 3% of the students are considered on grade level. Many of the kids don't even go to school (or they spend their days roaming around the hallways/the gym) yet are handed diplomas at the end of their four years. A kid was killed at said school a few months ago. This school is extremely regulated, so why did these kids "slip through the cracks" so much?

What happened to your family members is tragic, but I'm not sure what your point is.

Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:48     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why do uneducated people homeschool?


Well, if your kids are arrogant pricks like you, avoiding contact with them is reason enough.


It's arrogant to think a college degree is necessary to educate our children?


Yes. Bill Gates doesn’t have a college degree. Would you not let him teach your kid coding?


He did, however, go to college, even if he didn't finish. Also, Gates is the exception not the norm. I wish people would stop using this as a barometer. It's like comparing your avg clumsy kid to Michael Jordan.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:43     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:Too keep away from the riff raff like you and your family


Were you homeschooled?
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:38     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:Homeschool should be regulated to assure that kids to not slip through the cracks, but the ones who are getting a good education and are following state laws should be allowed to continue. My sister homeschooled her two girls, and it was a sad thing to watch. From K-12, they had no contact with anyone unless they were relatives. When my oldest niece finally "graduated'" and got a job at 18, she didn't even know how to use a drink machine, and tried to put pennies in it. She had never seen anyone use one before. My sister had never even shown them the most simple things. Her co-workers had to explain to her how to use it, and she was very embarrassed. At some point in her life, my sister could have bought a water and shown her how. She was fired from her job for coupon fraud, because she had no sense of right or wrong. She wasn't actually taught anything. She spent years in her blacked-out room cutting herself, and my uneducated sister ignored her.


Public schools should be regulated to make sure nobody is falling through the cracks and and everybody involved should be given the death penalty until they close the crushing 34% gap on standardized tests that homeschoolers enjoy over them.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:37     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

^Ignore the typo. My phone isn't awake yet.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:35     Subject: Re:Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Homeschool should be regulated to assure that kids to not slip through the cracks, but the ones who are getting a good education and are following state laws should be allowed to continue. My sister homeschooled her two girls, and it was a sad thing to watch. From K-12, they had no contact with anyone unless they were relatives. When my oldest niece finally "graduated'" and got a job at 18, she didn't even know how to use a drink machine, and tried to put pennies in it. She had never seen anyone use one before. My sister had never even shown them the most simple things. Her co-workers had to explain to her how to use it, and she was very embarrassed. At some point in her life, my sister could have bought a water and shown her how. She was fired from her job for coupon fraud, because she had no sense of right or wrong. She wasn't actually taught anything. She spent years in her blacked-out room cutting herself, and my uneducated sister ignored her.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:35     Subject: Why do uneducated people homeschool?

If they homeschool, they don't need to justify staying at home and don't have to get a job.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:33     Subject: Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Going to college doesn't' make you a great teacher or educator. Look at many college profs. Very well educated, very poor educators. Having knowledge doesn't mean you communicate well, express ideas in ways that facilitate learning, or engage students. The education of becoming a teachers is about learning to teach, not about learning content, especially in elementary and middle school.

Having a degree in math doesn't mean you could teach a child social studies or English any better than someone without a degree. Being a good teacher is more about teaching kids how to learn since just talking about information doesn't mean anyone is learning anything.

My father was a homeschool teacher after he retired form teaching public high school. A large religious group who all homeschooled their kids through 8th grade created a homeschool coop for high school. They brought in retired teachers to teach high school topics. He lasted a year!

I taught swimming lessons for homeschooled kids for a term. They were an odd bunch. From the 12 kids, two seemed normal, about 5-6 had obvious social skill deficits - although I don't know if that was the cause or effect of homeschooling, and the other 4 or so were just not used to group, class structures and instruction. The parents were also way too over involved. It was like wrangling cats.

Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:30     Subject: Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?


What? Saying you are not qualified to teach is not the same as saying the public school system taught you squat. My neighbor is very smart and well educated. She's a good attorney. But when I needed a root canal I didn't call her. Saying you are not qualified to do a certain job doesn't mean you are stupid or public school failed you. It means you are not qualified for every job.

Your logic is deeply flawed.


What's flawed is your own logic and argument tactics. We're not asking an attorney to do a root canal. We're asking an educated mother to teach her six-year-old math. Of course she can do that. Most people can do that who have a basic education.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2018 09:28     Subject: Why do uneducated people homeschool?

Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?


See, you have critical thinking skills (which you will teach your children), which is something OP just simply does not have going for her. They try to teach this in public school, but it's only something you can learn from your environment.