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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of dancers. They are in their teens and many of them dance around 20 hours per week.

The average waist for these girls who are young and exceptionally active is between 27 to 29 inches for dancers of your height.

A 25 inch waist would be the waist size of the 4th/5th grade girls, along with a couple of junior high girls who hit a lanky growth spurt but who have not yet gotten puberty curves.

The only teenagers with waists this small (and I am talking about active dancers) are the ones with health conditions or the ones who are naturally very skinny.

You have an eating disorder.

Yes. All of this, above.

Nope I don't have an eating disorder. You have zero idea what I look like and what I eat. You don't seem to understand the wide array of body types. I would never judge someone who is very wide and bulkier compared to me as someone overeating or with a strange perception of their body if they actually want to keep adding muscles. The genetic basis can be so different.

I look at my daughter and her 6 year old friends, at same height and they are oh so different. My daughter is just like me, very narrow skeleton, so light, very little muscle definition and easily a little belly right before she hits a growth spurt. Most of her friends have ankles, foots, heads that seem to be 1.5 the size of hers and have so much more muscles. And their routine is so similar. We are all very outdoorsy families, play sports, eat very healthy diets. The difference were visible from birth and it hasn't changed.

Oh jeez. Now you're analyzing and nitpicking at your little 6YO's body. Poor thing.

Oh for F* sake you are crazy and you see evil and body issues everywhere

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Anonymous wrote:From Marks and Spencer child uniform guide:

http://www.mandsyourschooluniform.com/size-guide.aspx

For girls, the years that correspond to 25 inch waist are from 10 years to 12 years.

By the way - I picked Marks and Spencers because British brand. I'm sure Americans are even fatter.

oh and here's a French brand's size chart (children's)

https://www.frenchtoast.com/category/customer+service/size+chart/girls.do

"Girls Slim" size for 12 to 13 year old calls out 25 inch waist.

And yes, I've been to France a dozen times in the last year, and they are all still skinny. (True this might be due to cigarette use but at least the kids that age aren't smoking).

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of dancers. They are in their teens and many of them dance around 20 hours per week.

The average waist for these girls who are young and exceptionally active is between 27 to 29 inches for dancers of your height.

A 25 inch waist would be the waist size of the 4th/5th grade girls, along with a couple of junior high girls who hit a lanky growth spurt but who have not yet gotten puberty curves.

The only teenagers with waists this small (and I am talking about active dancers) are the ones with health conditions or the ones who are naturally very skinny.

You have an eating disorder.

Yes. All of this, above.

Nope I don't have an eating disorder. You have zero idea what I look like and what I eat. You don't seem to understand the wide array of body types. I would never judge someone who is very wide and bulkier compared to me as someone overeating or with a strange perception of their body if they actually want to keep adding muscles. The genetic basis can be so different.

I look at my daughter and her 6 year old friends, at same height and they are oh so different. My daughter is just like me, very narrow skeleton, so light, very little muscle definition and easily a little belly right before she hits a growth spurt. Most of her friends have ankles, foots, heads that seem to be 1.5 the size of hers and have so much more muscles. And their routine is so similar. We are all very outdoorsy families, play sports, eat very healthy diets. The difference were visible from birth and it hasn't changed.

Oh jeez. Now you're analyzing and nitpicking at your little 6YO's body. Poor thing.

And comparing her body to those of her other little friends

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of dancers. They are in their teens and many of them dance around 20 hours per week.

The average waist for these girls who are young and exceptionally active is between 27 to 29 inches for dancers of your height.

A 25 inch waist would be the waist size of the 4th/5th grade girls, along with a couple of junior high girls who hit a lanky growth spurt but who have not yet gotten puberty curves.

The only teenagers with waists this small (and I am talking about active dancers) are the ones with health conditions or the ones who are naturally very skinny.

You have an eating disorder.

Yes. All of this, above.

Nope I don't have an eating disorder. You have zero idea what I look like and what I eat. You don't seem to understand the wide array of body types. I would never judge someone who is very wide and bulkier compared to me as someone overeating or with a strange perception of their body if they actually want to keep adding muscles. The genetic basis can be so different.

I look at my daughter and her 6 year old friends, at same height and they are oh so different. My daughter is just like me, very narrow skeleton, so light, very little muscle definition and easily a little belly right before she hits a growth spurt. Most of her friends have ankles, foots, heads that seem to be 1.5 the size of hers and have so much more muscles. And their routine is so similar. We are all very outdoorsy families, play sports, eat very healthy diets. The difference were visible from birth and it hasn't changed.

Oh jeez. Now you're analyzing and nitpicking at your little 6YO's body. Poor thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of dancers. They are in their teens and many of them dance around 20 hours per week.

The average waist for these girls who are young and exceptionally active is between 27 to 29 inches for dancers of your height.

A 25 inch waist would be the waist size of the 4th/5th grade girls, along with a couple of junior high girls who hit a lanky growth spurt but who have not yet gotten puberty curves.

The only teenagers with waists this small (and I am talking about active dancers) are the ones with health conditions or the ones who are naturally very skinny.

You have an eating disorder.

Yes. All of this, above.

Nope I don't have an eating disorder. You have zero idea what I look like and what I eat. You don't seem to understand the wide array of body types. I would never judge someone who is very wide and bulkier compared to me as someone overeating or with a strange perception of their body if they actually want to keep adding muscles. The genetic basis can be so different.

I look at my daughter and her 6 year old friends, at same height and they are oh so different. My daughter is just like me, very narrow skeleton, so light, very little muscle definition and easily a little belly right before she hits a growth spurt. Most of her friends have ankles, foots, heads that seem to be 1.5 the size of hers and have so much more muscles. And their routine is so similar. We are all very outdoorsy families, play sports, eat very healthy diets. The difference were visible from birth and it hasn't changed.

Oh jeez. Now you're analyzing and nitpicking at your little 6YO's body. Poor thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of dancers. They are in their teens and many of them dance around 20 hours per week.

The average waist for these girls who are young and exceptionally active is between 27 to 29 inches for dancers of your height.

A 25 inch waist would be the waist size of the 4th/5th grade girls, along with a couple of junior high girls who hit a lanky growth spurt but who have not yet gotten puberty curves.

The only teenagers with waists this small (and I am talking about active dancers) are the ones with health conditions or the ones who are naturally very skinny.

You have an eating disorder.

Yes. All of this, above.

Nope I don't have an eating disorder. You have zero idea what I look like and what I eat. You don't seem to understand the wide array of body types. I would never judge someone who is very wide and bulkier compared to me as someone overeating or with a strange perception of their body if they actually want to keep adding muscles. The genetic basis can be so different.

I look at my daughter and her 6 year old friends, at same height and they are oh so different. My daughter is just like me, very narrow skeleton, so light, very little muscle definition and easily a little belly right before she hits a growth spurt. Most of her friends have ankles, foots, heads that seem to be 1.5 the size of hers and have so much more muscles. And their routine is so similar. We are all very outdoorsy families, play sports, eat very healthy diets. The difference were visible from birth and it hasn't changed.

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Anonymous wrote:From Marks and Spencer child uniform guide:

http://www.mandsyourschooluniform.com/size-guide.aspx

For girls, the years that correspond to 25 inch waist are from 10 years to 12 years.

By the way - I picked Marks and Spencers because British brand. I'm sure Americans are even fatter.

oh and here's a French brand's size chart (children's)

https://www.frenchtoast.com/category/customer+service/size+chart/girls.do

"Girls Slim" size for 12 to 13 year old calls out 25 inch waist.

And yes, I've been to France a dozen times in the last year, and they are all still skinny. (True this might be due to cigarette use but at least the kids that age aren't smoking).

Anonymous wrote:From Marks and Spencer child uniform guide:

http://www.mandsyourschooluniform.com/size-guide.aspx

For girls, the years that correspond to 25 inch waist are from 10 years to 12 years.

By the way - I picked Marks and Spencers because British brand. I'm sure Americans are even fatter.

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"Sorry but if you are trying to loose weight from a frame that would be appropriate for a petite active athletic teenager who dances around 20 hours per week to the measurements of a tiny, fit 10 year old, then you at the very least have serious body dysmorphia going on."

And I think you haven't traveled enough or looked around enough beyond the typical bodies you know. A very athletic young woman with not an ounce of body fat to loose can be wider than me in terms of measurements. Her waist is going to be perfect.

I am not obsessed by a number. I don't care about a 30 or 25 inches waist. Those numbers don't mean anything to me: I took my measurements for the first time in 15 years (other time was for tailoring purposes) because I wanted a baseline to measure progress.

With my overall very narrow frame, my overall shoulder and hip width, my current level of body fat I have a real muffin top, 3 inches of fat on top of my waist and no waist definition, just a round flabby belly. I understand it is not common to have such localized fat and you have difficulties believing me, but I have no body dysmorphia. Unrealistic expectations given my body type (keep my breasts and get rid of my belly) I will give you that

Huh? From your first post:

Currently I am 5'5, 115 pound with a 27 inches waist and narrow hips. My ideal weight is 108/110 so I am working on losing 5-6pounds. I have been all the way down to 103 six years ago pre-kid but my face looks gaunt. My legs and arms are skinny, my belly is ugly, chubby, fat and straight. Apple shape.

My plan is to get to a 25-26 inches waist in the coming 2 months:

Because I need a goal? What is so strange about that? I am not married to a number meaning if I had an overall width of 35 inches I would need to have a waist of 34 inches to create a difference, If i have an overall width of 27 i will aim for a waist of 26

Point is that your bolded statements contradict each other. You do care. You do want a waist line that is more appropriate for a pre-teen.

I think at this stage you are the one who seem to have body issues. Did you hear the 41 PP with a 25.5 " waist post kids? 25" is not necessarily a pre teen waistline, it was actually the average waist 50 years ago

"Today, the average American woman is 5'4?, has a waist size of 34-35 inches and weighs between 140-150 lbs, with a dress size of 12-14. Fifty years ago, the average woman was 5'3-4? with a waist size of approximately 24-25?, she weighed about 120 lbs and wore a size 8.Jan 25, 2010"

And before you tal tortured waists with corset, that wasn't the only reason. My grandmother never wore a corset and she had a very small waist

Nice deflection, but I have a 27 inch waist as well. I've had the same waist since I was in high school, though I did get chubby during my college partying years.

I haven't had a 25 inch waist since I was 12. (I know this because I remember a wedding fitting for my aunt).

But how in the world is that relevant ? So You have a 27 inches waist, 25 was YOUR pre teen waist and you think there is no way that someone else could be healthy and have a smaller waist than you? Are you that thick ? And I am obviously talking about your brain right now

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"Sorry but if you are trying to loose weight from a frame that would be appropriate for a petite active athletic teenager who dances around 20 hours per week to the measurements of a tiny, fit 10 year old, then you at the very least have serious body dysmorphia going on."

And I think you haven't traveled enough or looked around enough beyond the typical bodies you know. A very athletic young woman with not an ounce of body fat to loose can be wider than me in terms of measurements. Her waist is going to be perfect.

I am not obsessed by a number. I don't care about a 30 or 25 inches waist. Those numbers don't mean anything to me: I took my measurements for the first time in 15 years (other time was for tailoring purposes) because I wanted a baseline to measure progress.

With my overall very narrow frame, my overall shoulder and hip width, my current level of body fat I have a real muffin top, 3 inches of fat on top of my waist and no waist definition, just a round flabby belly. I understand it is not common to have such localized fat and you have difficulties believing me, but I have no body dysmorphia. Unrealistic expectations given my body type (keep my breasts and get rid of my belly) I will give you that

Huh? From your first post:

Currently I am 5'5, 115 pound with a 27 inches waist and narrow hips. My ideal weight is 108/110 so I am working on losing 5-6pounds. I have been all the way down to 103 six years ago pre-kid but my face looks gaunt. My legs and arms are skinny, my belly is ugly, chubby, fat and straight. Apple shape.

My plan is to get to a 25-26 inches waist in the coming 2 months:

Because I need a goal? What is so strange about that? I am not married to a number meaning if I had an overall width of 35 inches I would need to have a waist of 34 inches to create a difference, If i have an overall width of 27 i will aim for a waist of 26

Point is that your bolded statements contradict each other. You do care. You do want a waist line that is more appropriate for a pre-teen.

I think at this stage you are the one who seem to have body issues. Did you hear the 41 PP with a 25.5 " waist post kids? 25" is not necessarily a pre teen waistline, it was actually the average waist 50 years ago

"Today, the average American woman is 5'4?, has a waist size of 34-35 inches and weighs between 140-150 lbs, with a dress size of 12-14. Fifty years ago, the average woman was 5'3-4? with a waist size of approximately 24-25?, she weighed about 120 lbs and wore a size 8.Jan 25, 2010"

And before you tal tortured waists with corset, that wasn't the only reason. My grandmother never wore a corset and she had a very small waist

Nice deflection, but I have a 27 inch waist as well. I've had the same waist since I was in high school, though I did get chubby during my college partying years.

I haven't had a 25 inch waist since I was 12. (I know this because I remember a wedding fitting for my aunt).

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Anonymous wrote:
"Sorry but if you are trying to loose weight from a frame that would be appropriate for a petite active athletic teenager who dances around 20 hours per week to the measurements of a tiny, fit 10 year old, then you at the very least have serious body dysmorphia going on."

And I think you haven't traveled enough or looked around enough beyond the typical bodies you know. A very athletic young woman with not an ounce of body fat to loose can be wider than me in terms of measurements. Her waist is going to be perfect.

I am not obsessed by a number. I don't care about a 30 or 25 inches waist. Those numbers don't mean anything to me: I took my measurements for the first time in 15 years (other time was for tailoring purposes) because I wanted a baseline to measure progress.

With my overall very narrow frame, my overall shoulder and hip width, my current level of body fat I have a real muffin top, 3 inches of fat on top of my waist and no waist definition, just a round flabby belly. I understand it is not common to have such localized fat and you have difficulties believing me, but I have no body dysmorphia. Unrealistic expectations given my body type (keep my breasts and get rid of my belly) I will give you that

Huh? From your first post:

Currently I am 5'5, 115 pound with a 27 inches waist and narrow hips. My ideal weight is 108/110 so I am working on losing 5-6pounds. I have been all the way down to 103 six years ago pre-kid but my face looks gaunt. My legs and arms are skinny, my belly is ugly, chubby, fat and straight. Apple shape.

My plan is to get to a 25-26 inches waist in the coming 2 months:

Because I need a goal? What is so strange about that? I am not married to a number meaning if I had an overall width of 35 inches I would need to have a waist of 34 inches to create a difference, If i have an overall width of 27 i will aim for a waist of 26

Point is that your bolded statements contradict each other. You do care. You do want a waist line that is more appropriate for a pre-teen.

I think at this stage you are the one who seem to have body issues. Did you hear the 41 PP with a 25.5 " waist post kids? 25" is not necessarily a pre teen waistline, it was actually the average waist 50 years ago

"Today, the average American woman is 5'4?, has a waist size of 34-35 inches and weighs between 140-150 lbs, with a dress size of 12-14. Fifty years ago, the average woman was 5'3-4? with a waist size of approximately 24-25?, she weighed about 120 lbs and wore a size 8.Jan 25, 2010"

And before you tal tortured waists with corset, that wasn't the only reason. My grandmother never wore a corset and she had a very small waist

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
"Sorry but if you are trying to loose weight from a frame that would be appropriate for a petite active athletic teenager who dances around 20 hours per week to the measurements of a tiny, fit 10 year old, then you at the very least have serious body dysmorphia going on."

And I think you haven't traveled enough or looked around enough beyond the typical bodies you know. A very athletic young woman with not an ounce of body fat to loose can be wider than me in terms of measurements. Her waist is going to be perfect.

I am not obsessed by a number. I don't care about a 30 or 25 inches waist. Those numbers don't mean anything to me: I took my measurements for the first time in 15 years (other time was for tailoring purposes) because I wanted a baseline to measure progress.

With my overall very narrow frame, my overall shoulder and hip width, my current level of body fat I have a real muffin top, 3 inches of fat on top of my waist and no waist definition, just a round flabby belly. I understand it is not common to have such localized fat and you have difficulties believing me, but I have no body dysmorphia. Unrealistic expectations given my body type (keep my breasts and get rid of my belly) I will give you that

Huh? From your first post:

Currently I am 5'5, 115 pound with a 27 inches waist and narrow hips. My ideal weight is 108/110 so I am working on losing 5-6pounds. I have been all the way down to 103 six years ago pre-kid but my face looks gaunt. My legs and arms are skinny, my belly is ugly, chubby, fat and straight. Apple shape.

My plan is to get to a 25-26 inches waist in the coming 2 months:

Because I need a goal? What is so strange about that? I am not married to a number meaning if I had an overall width of 35 inches I would need to have a waist of 34 inches to create a difference, If i have an overall width of 27 i will aim for a waist of 26

Point is that your bolded statements contradict each other. You do care. You do want a waist line that is more appropriate for a pre-teen.

I think at this stage you are the one who seem to have body issues. Did you hear the 41 PP with a 25.5 " waist post kids? 25" is not necessarily a pre teen waistline, it was actually the average waist 50 years ago

"Today, the average American woman is 5'4?, has a waist size of 34-35 inches and weighs between 140-150 lbs, with a dress size of 12-14. Fifty years ago, the average woman was 5'3-4? with a waist size of approximately 24-25?, she weighed about 120 lbs and wore a size 8.Jan 25, 2010"

And before you tal tortured waists with corset, that wasn't the only reason. My grandmother never wore a corset and she had a very small waist