Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:56
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread reaffirms our choice to not attend a W school..
I’m not White and not at a W school and I’d be all for breaking up the county school system.
You can claim racism about anything and everything, but THIS is not about racism.
I grew up in NJ and we had school systems by County. So much better and easier to make changes. MCPS is TOO big to run efficiently.
In a smaller town-based school system, parents often get to know people on the school board and it helps with accountability. MCPS has obvious issues with accountability. Lax school security and lax hiring processes our kids at risk when they hire pedophiles. And nobody gets held accountable.
Right now, MCPS doesn’t meet the kids of any of it’s students very well. Break it up and each town/cluster can focus on its own needs.
In the NJ town I lived in 15-20k in property taxes per year were common. People who grew up in the town often cannot afford to live there as adults because of taxes. Taxes get raised every year. Every. Year.
The school system hires teachers as favors rather than the best candidate. Our last year in NJ, two teachers were let go mid year after an audit by the state found they had not finished getting their teaching certificates. One of the fired teachers was the sil of the mayor.
At the elementary school level, the PTA moms decided class placement because certain families can't be around other families. There was one GT class per grade starting in 4th grade, the PTA moms' kids are always in these classes. You need teacher permission to take AP classes. There wasn't full day kindergarten because it was too expensive.
I'll stick with a county based school system.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:48
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is the worst school idea around. This is exactly what is done in Virginia. Independent cities have their own school systems. Those systems are all horrible. It’s because you have a very small tax base but you still require all the overhead of a regular system.
City of falls church has a high performing school system
Which schools specifically is in the city of Falls Church school system that you are referring to?
Anyone that believes breaking the "W" schools up into their own systems need to think more about it. If you believe having 26 different school boards all elected and paid for and 26 different superintendants is better than one, you're crazy. You would then need 26 different administration buildings, 26 different IT departments, 26 different accounting departments, 26 different payroll departments, and 26 of every single overhead position. It is not economical. There are efficiencies in scale, it's why when corporations merge they are able to cut overhead costs while keeping revenue consistent. If one of the W schools broke out of the system, it would be so expensive to build it's own school system that far more dollars would be spent on overhead than is currently the case which would mean far fewer dollars going to classrooms. That would mean declining schools quickly followed by people leaving the area and falling home prices.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:43
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the W schools have a consortium like DCC, Northeast, and Middle school?
What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.
The more money you have, the more involved you are as a parent? I didn't know that.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:41
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the W schools have a consortium like DCC, Northeast, and Middle school?
What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.
What would be the purpose of this consortium? So that students zoned for Churchill could instead go to Whitman?
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:38
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Don't blame everything for racism. We need a equal discussion. Why some people always want to shut others up simply using racism? Do you feel better you take the moral high ground? Do you feel more decent than others?
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:36
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Why can’t the W schools have a consortium like DCC, Northeast, and Middle school?
What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.
What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:20
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread reaffirms our choice to not attend a W school..
I’m not White and not at a W school and I’d be all for breaking up the county school system.
You can claim racism about anything and everything, but THIS is not about racism.
I grew up in NJ and we had school systems by County. So much better and easier to make changes. MCPS is TOO big to run efficiently.
In a smaller town-based school system, parents often get to know people on the school board and it helps with accountability. MCPS has obvious issues with accountability. Lax school security and lax hiring processes our kids at risk when they hire pedophiles. And nobody gets held accountable.
Right now, MCPS doesn’t meet the kids of any of it’s students very well. Break it up and each town/cluster can focus on its own needs.
Whereas here in Maryland, we have school systems by County.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:12
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
I'm all for breaking up MCPS, in the name of bureaucratic ease. It's much too big, from an administrative standpoint.
However, what you all are proposing is essentially, "let's split off from the poor parts of the county because we don't want to deal with them."
1. That's horrific, from an ethical standpoint.
2. It's just wrong. The "W" schools aren't the only strong ones in MCPS.
However, what you all are proposing is essentially, "let's split off from the poor parts of the county because we don't want to deal with them."
1. That's horrific, from an ethical standpoint.
2. It's just wrong. The "W" schools aren't the only strong ones in MCPS.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 08:07
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:This thread reaffirms our choice to not attend a W school..
I’m not White and not at a W school and I’d be all for breaking up the county school system.
You can claim racism about anything and everything, but THIS is not about racism.
I grew up in NJ and we had school systems by County. So much better and easier to make changes. MCPS is TOO big to run efficiently.
In a smaller town-based school system, parents often get to know people on the school board and it helps with accountability. MCPS has obvious issues with accountability. Lax school security and lax hiring processes our kids at risk when they hire pedophiles. And nobody gets held accountable.
Right now, MCPS doesn’t meet the kids of any of it’s students very well. Break it up and each town/cluster can focus on its own needs.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:49
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
This thread reaffirms our choice to not attend a W school..
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:48
Subject: Re:Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s more that they’re declining which is cause for concern...
Yeah, funny how the proposed border conveniently creeps around the wealthier areas of the county.
Pure coincidence!
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:47
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with
I agree. The sad thing is they don't even realize it.
It's not self-centered to want the best for your child sorry. It's called being a decent parent. People in lower SES levels should be more vocal about it
It's called SES segregation. How you equate that with being a decent parent is...
"separate but equal" comes to mind. It is sad. The word 'snowflake' also comes to mind but I don't know if it applies to the parents or to the kids. I am not saying there aren't issues but to separate the precious "W" schools? Please.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:41
Subject: Re:Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s more that they’re declining which is cause for concern...
Yeah, funny how the proposed border conveniently creeps around the wealthier areas of the county.
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:39
Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with
So, it’s self centered and entitled to assume that your money at least goes towards adequately educating your children? Some people don’t have any money left over for extra tutors, classes or therapies to educate their children outside of the public school. The county shouldn’t be taking people’s money - raising taxes frequently and having some of the highest taxes in the nation - and then squandering it and redistributing it in such a way that leaves middle class people needing to pay for private school or hire expensive tutors. That’s rudicous.
Of course people expect a good education for their children with the rates of taxes paid. Yes they are entitled to that - they worked to pay their taxes and an good education is expected. If the county wants to provide a crappy education they can reduce taxes so that people can choose their own private school for their kids if need be.
If you send your kid to a private school and pay the tuition you expect a good education for your child. The public school system is only different in that many people whose children don’t go to the schools and those who have no children are paying towards the schools. There’s plenty of money provided it’s just being mismanaged.
My children are getting a more-than-adequate education. Maybe you should move to the part of the county I live in. It's evident, at least from the gripes on DCUM, that people who move to Bethesda or Potomac "for the schools" aren't getting what they think they paid for.
B I N G O
Anonymous
02/26/2018 07:38
Subject: Re:Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
The White Citizens Council hood and mask are off.