Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 19:28     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
We are Catholic and DH is circumcised but we both felt it was not our decision to make when DS was born. If he wants to be circumcised when he is older, that is his decision as it is his body. I feel the same way about my DD and ear-piercing. Makes no difference to me that it is part of my culture - it is her body and her decision to make when she is an adult.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 18:48     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
My reasons for circ have nothing to do with looks and everything to do with health and reducing the likelihood of stds per the studies cited already. If you want to believe the research doesn't apply to your son for some reason then fine but stop trying to make it about parents being shallow.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 18:41     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Who cares. Just make the choice to do it or not...and please stop with the baby's feelings argument. A baby that young doesn't remember anything and it's not the most traumatic thing they will go through.

Do it if you want or don't do it. It doesn't matter either way. This is generally an argument that women have...just another way to judge each other.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 18:34     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Dh is from s.amer and thinks it is barbaric. I was on the fence but am glad we didn't. if I was Jewish I'm sure I would feel differently.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:52     Subject: Re:Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
I have four sons. The oldest was circumcised because my husband was and I thought it was the right thing to do. Afterwards I regretted it. There were no complications or anything, but seeing his tiny bloody penis really ate away at me, and there was absolutely no reason for it. The younger three are not circumcised. They are now in their teens and none of them have expressed any issues of "locker room teasing" or anything.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:35     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We didn't circ our boys and have had no issues.


You do not know that. Studies show that the penis loses sensitivity because so many nerves are cut. Are you circumcised?


What? We did not circ and our sons have had no issues because they weren't circed. One reason we didn't circ was because the foreskin is supposed to be very sensitive and retaining it is supposed to heighten sexual pleasure.


Oh, and DH is circ'ed, but neither of our fathers were.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:34     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We didn't circ our boys and have had no issues.


You do not know that. Studies show that the penis loses sensitivity because so many nerves are cut. Are you circumcised?


What? We did not circ and our sons have had no issues because they weren't circed. One reason we didn't circ was because the foreskin is supposed to be very sensitive and retaining it is supposed to heighten sexual pleasure.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:22     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.


Funny you say that. My kids were born in NYC and I was given all kinds of grief from the hospital staff, especially the Jewish doctor, about not circumcising my boys both times that I delivered. They must have been anti-non semitic.



Yeah, my son was hospitalized when we lived in NY, and they INSISTED (the Jewish doctors) that he MUST have a UTI because he was not circ'd. Only he had a viral infection, and no UTI. It was awful (because they insisted on catheterizing him to get a urine sample that was NOT indicated).
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:19     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.


Funny you say that. My kids were born in NYC and I was given all kinds of grief from the hospital staff, especially the Jewish doctor, about not circumcising my boys both times that I delivered. They must have been anti-non semitic.

Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:18     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.


You're very defensive.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:15     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:We didn't circ our boys and have had no issues.


You do not know that. Studies show that the penis loses sensitivity because so many nerves are cut. Are you circumcised?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 17:10     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both the CDC and the WHO recommend circumcision to help reduce the spread of STDs. I know everyone thinks their children will be virgins forever, but they won't, and neither will their partners.

(As a side note, these studies only apply to male/female vaginal intercourse.)

http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/


These studies also were done in a place where condoms are culturally discouraged.

NP: so? Do you think everyone always practices safe sex? I’m with the first PP.


No, but they practice it WAY more in developed countries than where the study was done. That wildly affects the % benefit.

Your son will never have sex if you follow him around on every date. with a pack of condoms.


You can stop right there.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:51     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never dated a man who wished he was circumcised, but have dated men who wished that they weren't.


Opposite experience for me.


They could have taken care of that issue if they really wished that were true. Obviously it wasn't something they felt strongly about.

That's what I don't get about the pro-circ people. If you are so certain circumcision is the best path, why aren't you confident enough in your stance to let your son decide on his own as an adult? Why not put him in charge of his own body? Are you worried because adult voluntary circumcisions are almost non-existent? And don't talk about how much worse it is; after all, you're totally okay doing this to your infant. Surely an adult male can handle what a baby often suffers without anesthesia.

The procedure is substantially more serious for an adult than it is for an infant and you know it. Adults and older children require stitches and a much longer recovery period. Infants do not require stitches and they heal much faster. It was healed in a week for my boys.


Boo hoo, stitches!!! Pity the poor penis! Women are popping kids out of their vaginas, getting c-sections, and are stitched up regularly. If an intact man cared enough, they’d do it.


Exactly. People do it to infants because infants have no choice. They know nearly all adult men would not choose to be circumcised so they force it on infants who have no say in the matter.

If pro-circ people were really confident they were doing the right thing, they'd let their adult sons make the decision for themselves.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:51     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.


Right, anyone who has problems with a barbaric practice is anti-Semitic, got it. You think they targeted you because you were Jewish but would have been fine with a non-Jew who circumcised?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2017 16:48     Subject: Non Jews and Circumcision - Question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work in the hospital nursery and find the practice barbaric personally. We did not circumcize my son even though my husband is. I'd say the rate of circumcision in this area is around 50-50.

Yes, all the nurses in the hospital where I delivered were truly horrible to me about it. They had no problem telling me all about their opinions on the topic. Excessively opinionated and anti semitic. Every last one of them. They also lied about how much pain my baby was in, even though the doctor used a local anesthetic for the procedure. You're clearly one of them.


You sound overly sensitive. It’s their job to minimize a baby’s pain.