Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 22:22     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 50 big, beautiful United States, all with different things to offer. To say there are “no jobs” in “fly over” states is totally wrong.

And, for those of you who think people from other parts of the country should move to the coast for those wonderful job opportunities and “competitive peers,” are you ready for skyrocketing cost of living? How about even more congested traffic? How about increased day care costs because of demand?
Some people move AWAY from the coasts exactly for these reasons.


There are professional jobs in flyover country, of course, but not much depth in their economies, so job hopping is nearly impossible, wage growth is terrible. Locals are so provincial. Sure there are some sophisticated doctors, lawyers and execs ... but again, not much depth. Most folks are dull and slow and myopic.


And yet their candidate won. Perhaps denigrating them less and trying to speak to the issues that concern them might be a better approach.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 22:21     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Yikes. This thread is full of lazy stereotypes. I was an east coast best and brightest. Ended up in dc. Moved back to my flyover city. I live in the city here and my life is way more cultured and nice than when I lived in suburban dc (because I couldn't afford to live I dc proper). The divide in America is urban rural and these blanket statements about flyover country are just lazy.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 22:20     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am from flyover country. Many do move. There is a huge issue with brain drain. The people who do not move have legitimate reasons. Jobs, families, money. It is not like you can snap your fingers and create a new life on the east coast when 4 generations have been coal miners in WV.


As you watch dead broke often illiterate people flee conflict in the Mid East, Central America, etc. how can you say this with a straight face? How did Americans populate the west? They got off their freakin’ asses and fearlessly moved to better their families.


Ok. Well, good luck with that. This is why DJT won. Please stop because you make things worse. We ended up with an idiot for President. You do not understand flyover country. Have you ever been there?

Np Djt won what? Like seriously , take your own advice and stop because I can assure you a full four years of the bloated carrot and the already declining midwestern population will be further diminished. So again this is why Djt won what ? You're not as clever as you seem to delude yourself into thinking


The presidency, you dolt.


Thanks captain obvious , we're waiting for flyover to become as prosperous as Switzerland . In the meantime here's a lesson for you , nobody knows you like your own , the bloated carrot garnered something like 6% of the votes in NYC because unlike you flyover denizens who seem to have been euphoric that finally a 'yankee' didn't look down on you .we, his longtime neighbors and fellow NYC knew he's never succeeded at anything in his life and the presidency will just be another failure added to his already bloated portfolio of failures . You think people look down on flyover country now ,just wait .


Are you drunk or do you just have trouble putting together coherent sentences?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 20:44     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is cut out for New Jersey, NYC or Chicago. City dwellers are different than those who prefer country life.


Well you can live where you prefer but don’t bitch about not having a good paying job! Again DC isn’t my first choice for living but I have plenty of job opportunities that enable me to feed my kids. Everyone needs to choose what they will sacrifice.



Of course there are plenty of job opportunities in DC. That's where everyone sends their tax dollars to be pissed away, although they don't get much back! It is the teat of the country.


That’s true. DC is the real “taker” in this country.

DC definitely has a high unemployment rate. But, how many who work in DC actually live in DC? Judging by the traffic around the DC area, beltway and outside of it, seems to me many who work in DC don't actually live there.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 19:47     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is cut out for New Jersey, NYC or Chicago. City dwellers are different than those who prefer country life.


Well you can live where you prefer but don’t bitch about not having a good paying job! Again DC isn’t my first choice for living but I have plenty of job opportunities that enable me to feed my kids. Everyone needs to choose what they will sacrifice.



Of course there are plenty of job opportunities in DC. That's where everyone sends their tax dollars to be pissed away, although they don't get much back! It is the teat of the country.


That’s true. DC is the real “taker” in this country.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 19:33     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is cut out for New Jersey, NYC or Chicago. City dwellers are different than those who prefer country life.


Well you can live where you prefer but don’t bitch about not having a good paying job! Again DC isn’t my first choice for living but I have plenty of job opportunities that enable me to feed my kids. Everyone needs to choose what they will sacrifice.



Of course there are plenty of job opportunities in DC. That's where everyone sends their tax dollars to be pissed away, although they don't get much back! It is the teat of the country.

Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 19:21     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are 50 big, beautiful United States, all with different things to offer. To say there are “no jobs” in “fly over” states is totally wrong.

And, for those of you who think people from other parts of the country should move to the coast for those wonderful job opportunities and “competitive peers,” are you ready for skyrocketing cost of living? How about even more congested traffic? How about increased day care costs because of demand?
Some people move AWAY from the coasts exactly for these reasons.


There are professional jobs in flyover country, of course, but not much depth in their economies, so job hopping is nearly impossible, wage growth is terrible. Locals are so provincial. Sure there are some sophisticated doctors, lawyers and execs ... but again, not much depth. Most folks are dull and slow and myopic.


Wow. What a statement. Perhaps they are “dull and slow and myopic” from your perspective because you present yourself with such arrogance that these folks are not interested in your conversation or opinion.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 19:13     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:There are 50 big, beautiful United States, all with different things to offer. To say there are “no jobs” in “fly over” states is totally wrong.

And, for those of you who think people from other parts of the country should move to the coast for those wonderful job opportunities and “competitive peers,” are you ready for skyrocketing cost of living? How about even more congested traffic? How about increased day care costs because of demand?
Some people move AWAY from the coasts exactly for these reasons.


There are professional jobs in flyover country, of course, but not much depth in their economies, so job hopping is nearly impossible, wage growth is terrible. Locals are so provincial. Sure there are some sophisticated doctors, lawyers and execs ... but again, not much depth. Most folks are dull and slow and myopic.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:59     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:There are 50 big, beautiful United States, all with different things to offer. To say there are “no jobs” in “fly over” states is totally wrong.

And, for those of you who think people from other parts of the country should move to the coast for those wonderful job opportunities and “competitive peers,” are you ready for skyrocketing cost of living? How about even more congested traffic? How about increased day care costs because of demand?
Some people move AWAY from the coasts exactly for these reasons.

I think the point is that those who are chronically unemployed in flyover country because they can't find jobs should move to where the jobs are more plentiful, ie WV coal country to, say, ND or even NE, where the current unemployment rate is below the national average. You see, they don't even have to move to the coastal cities. But, it does mean that they have to probably re-train and move. But, they aren't willing to even re-train.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-effect-coal-retraining-insight/awaiting-trumps-coal-comeback-miners-reject-retraining-idUSKBN1D14G0
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:55     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am from flyover country. Many do move. There is a huge issue with brain drain. The people who do not move have legitimate reasons. Jobs, families, money. It is not like you can snap your fingers and create a new life on the east coast when 4 generations have been coal miners in WV.


As you watch dead broke often illiterate people flee conflict in the Mid East, Central America, etc. how can you say this with a straight face? How did Americans populate the west? They got off their freakin’ asses and fearlessly moved to better their families.


Ok. Well, good luck with that. This is why DJT won. Please stop because you make things worse. We ended up with an idiot for President. You do not understand flyover country. Have you ever been there?

Np Djt won what? Like seriously , take your own advice and stop because I can assure you a full four years of the bloated carrot and the already declining midwestern population will be further diminished. So again this is why Djt won what ? You're not as clever as you seem to delude yourself into thinking


The presidency, you dolt.


Thanks captain obvious , we're waiting for flyover to become as prosperous as Switzerland . In the meantime here's a lesson for you , nobody knows you like your own , the bloated carrot garnered something like 6% of the votes in NYC because unlike you flyover denizens who seem to have been euphoric that finally a 'yankee' didn't look down on you .we, his longtime neighbors and fellow NYC knew he's never succeeded at anything in his life and the presidency will just be another failure added to his already bloated portfolio of failures . You think people look down on flyover country now ,just wait .
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:51     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
There are 50 big, beautiful United States, all with different things to offer. To say there are “no jobs” in “fly over” states is totally wrong.

And, for those of you who think people from other parts of the country should move to the coast for those wonderful job opportunities and “competitive peers,” are you ready for skyrocketing cost of living? How about even more congested traffic? How about increased day care costs because of demand?
Some people move AWAY from the coasts exactly for these reasons.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:49     Subject: Re:Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can say the same thing about blacks who remain in the deep South, where engrained prejudice is more rampant. It's difficult, emotionally and financially, to uproot yourself from one's entire support system, and many simply don't have the wherewithal.


Yes, I much prefer living in New Hampshire or Vermont (or even MA) where most people look and talk just like me. Diversity just isn't my thing.



Let's add CT to that non-diverse but oh so liberal minded state where 'engrained prejudice' is not an issue..

To be fair Connecticut isn't for the faint of heart . It ain't cheap , low income liberals regardless will have a hard time living there
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:45     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am from flyover country. Many do move. There is a huge issue with brain drain. The people who do not move have legitimate reasons. Jobs, families, money. It is not like you can snap your fingers and create a new life on the east coast when 4 generations have been coal miners in WV.


As you watch dead broke often illiterate people flee conflict in the Mid East, Central America, etc. how can you say this with a straight face? How did Americans populate the west? They got off their freakin’ asses and fearlessly moved to better their families.


Ok. Well, good luck with that. This is why DJT won. Please stop because you make things worse. We ended up with an idiot for President. You do not understand flyover country. Have you ever been there?

Np Djt won what? Like seriously , take your own advice and stop because I can assure you a full four years of the bloated carrot and the already declining midwestern population will be further diminished. So again this is why Djt won what ? You're not as clever as you seem to delude yourself into thinking


The presidency, you dolt.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:45     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, move to cities run be Dems so you can get shot


Stay in flyover and attend weekly suicide and heroin laced funerals
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2017 18:42     Subject: Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you can earn a DC/NYC area wage and telework from "flyover country" you become the big winner, and add to the local economy.


I don't know anyone doing well in DC who visited flyover country for the holidays and genuinely said to themselves "Man, I miss this place so much. Wish we could move back!" Not a soul.


Guess you visited some sucky parts, then. I was in a north shore Chicago suburb and I’m like, wow, let me stay here.


Chicago is the capital of the Midwest , as far as flyover go its the standout. I mean isn't it like the third largest city in the country or something ?