Anonymous
01/11/2018 12:18
Subject: South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love how M Arlington thinks the new school is help them. It might but Fleet is primarily a S Arlington school. I presume the boundaries will follow the middle school boundaries.
I don't know if you noticed, but the Jefferson boundary extends N of 50. Fleet is being built ON THAT SAME SITE. During the working group, APS staff clearly showed that Long Branch and the new school would have overlapping walk zones, and said that if this location was chosen, it could pull from both sides of 50 to help with overcrowding in both N and S. With the pedestrian bridge right there, it's not crazy to think that kids on either side of 50 could go to either school. We'll have to see, but if history is any indication, whatever path is most beneficial to those N of 50 will be what they decide to do.
I think that at most they will pull some kids from longbranch to relieve overcrowding there. As an earlier person pointed out though, they can only really pull in at most 50 kids without putting the new school at over capacity at opening though.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 12:13
Subject: South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:I love how M Arlington thinks the new school is help them. It might but Fleet is primarily a S Arlington school. I presume the boundaries will follow the middle school boundaries.
I don't know if you noticed, but the Jefferson boundary extends N of 50. Fleet is being built ON THAT SAME SITE. During the working group, APS staff clearly showed that Long Branch and the new school would have overlapping walk zones, and said that if this location was chosen, it could pull from both sides of 50 to help with overcrowding in both N and S. With the pedestrian bridge right there, it's not crazy to think that kids on either side of 50 could go to either school. We'll have to see, but if history is any indication, whatever path is most beneficial to those N of 50 will be what they decide to do.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 12:07
Subject: South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:I love how M Arlington thinks the new school is help them. It might but Fleet is primarily a S Arlington school. I presume the boundaries will follow the middle school boundaries.
Some of us are quite happy with S Arlington schools. We have a student at Gunston and another at Claremont, and wouldn't trade it for any other school in the county.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 11:19
Subject: South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
I love how M Arlington thinks the new school is help them. It might but Fleet is primarily a S Arlington school. I presume the boundaries will follow the middle school boundaries.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 09:27
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
There are still some PU's south of 50 zoned Long Branch. It's the military base housing I believe and it's part of the more creative boundaries that previous generations created to increase diversity at Long Branch. Naturally, they will be undoing this. It's not very many kids though, so I don't think this is going to help with the overcrowding at Long Branch. Not sure how the boundary stuff will shake out N of 50, but I think Barrett is poised to become over 70% fr/l if their boundary doesn't change once that new project is completed in Buckingham. I'm sure the new boundaries on that side of 50 will not take that into account.
It's all just another brick in the wall.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 09:11
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
I don't think Alcova Heights is getting rezoned either. But Fleet will not be some sort of dumping ground for all those ASFS families who don't want an overcrowded school. Right now Henry and ASFS have roughly the same amount of students, about 675 kids. Fleet has a capacity for 725. Those 50 extra seats aren't enough to solve the overcrowding issue. So yes - some Patrick Henry families won't be able to go to Fleet. But some current ASFS families will be pushed out of that zone as well.
Yea, Long branch is also really overcrowded and doesn't have room for trailers. I'm not sure why people from asfs ever though long branch could take any of the asfs overflow. It's over capacity. The asfs boundary change will push kids north to Taylor and Jamestown. Depending on what they do (establishing a walk zone for Asfs as is or switching facilities with key), either Taylor will lose all of its cherrydale and Lyon village kids to asfs and pick up all of courthouse/Clarendon/Rosslyn. If they switch facilities, then the asfs crowding issue more or less goes away if they just send the transfers back to their home school (the number of transfers is roughly equal to the number of kids from the asfs zone that currently opt for immersion). Regardless, fleet might take some kids from long branch, but it would be to reduce crowding at long branch. Not to reduce crowding at asfs.
Great points. I think far too many APS families think opening the new school will solve their issues with walkability and/or overcrowding. But when 5-6 schools are all looking for the same thing, the numbers just don't add up. I think a lot of elementary students will be going to different schools in two years.
I'd rather they solve the problem of equitable schools. There's no reason in such a wealthy county for the achievement gap that we have.
Anonymous
01/11/2018 08:54
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
I don't think Alcova Heights is getting rezoned either. But Fleet will not be some sort of dumping ground for all those ASFS families who don't want an overcrowded school. Right now Henry and ASFS have roughly the same amount of students, about 675 kids. Fleet has a capacity for 725. Those 50 extra seats aren't enough to solve the overcrowding issue. So yes - some Patrick Henry families won't be able to go to Fleet. But some current ASFS families will be pushed out of that zone as well.
Yea, Long branch is also really overcrowded and doesn't have room for trailers. I'm not sure why people from asfs ever though long branch could take any of the asfs overflow. It's over capacity. The asfs boundary change will push kids north to Taylor and Jamestown. Depending on what they do (establishing a walk zone for Asfs as is or switching facilities with key), either Taylor will lose all of its cherrydale and Lyon village kids to asfs and pick up all of courthouse/Clarendon/Rosslyn. If they switch facilities, then the asfs crowding issue more or less goes away if they just send the transfers back to their home school (the number of transfers is roughly equal to the number of kids from the asfs zone that currently opt for immersion). Regardless, fleet might take some kids from long branch, but it would be to reduce crowding at long branch. Not to reduce crowding at asfs.
Great points. I think far too many APS families think opening the new school will solve their issues with walkability and/or overcrowding. But when 5-6 schools are all looking for the same thing, the numbers just don't add up. I think a lot of elementary students will be going to different schools in two years.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 12:55
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
I don't think Alcova Heights is getting rezoned either. But Fleet will not be some sort of dumping ground for all those ASFS families who don't want an overcrowded school. Right now Henry and ASFS have roughly the same amount of students, about 675 kids. Fleet has a capacity for 725. Those 50 extra seats aren't enough to solve the overcrowding issue. So yes - some Patrick Henry families won't be able to go to Fleet. But some current ASFS families will be pushed out of that zone as well.
Yea, Long branch is also really overcrowded and doesn't have room for trailers. I'm not sure why people from asfs ever though long branch could take any of the asfs overflow. It's over capacity. The asfs boundary change will push kids north to Taylor and Jamestown. Depending on what they do (establishing a walk zone for Asfs as is or switching facilities with key), either Taylor will lose all of its cherrydale and Lyon village kids to asfs and pick up all of courthouse/Clarendon/Rosslyn. If they switch facilities, then the asfs crowding issue more or less goes away if they just send the transfers back to their home school (the number of transfers is roughly equal to the number of kids from the asfs zone that currently opt for immersion). Regardless, fleet might take some kids from long branch, but it would be to reduce crowding at long branch. Not to reduce crowding at asfs.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 12:37
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
I don't think Alcova Heights is getting rezoned either. But Fleet will not be some sort of dumping ground for all those ASFS families who don't want an overcrowded school. Right now Henry and ASFS have roughly the same amount of students, about 675 kids. Fleet has a capacity for 725. Those 50 extra seats aren't enough to solve the overcrowding issue. So yes - some Patrick Henry families won't be able to go to Fleet. But some current ASFS families will be pushed out of that zone as well.
This is going to get nasty. Everyone thinks they should be at Henry.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 10:07
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
I don't think Alcova Heights is getting rezoned either. But Fleet will not be some sort of dumping ground for all those ASFS families who don't want an overcrowded school. Right now Henry and ASFS have roughly the same amount of students, about 675 kids. Fleet has a capacity for 725. Those 50 extra seats aren't enough to solve the overcrowding issue. So yes - some Patrick Henry families won't be able to go to Fleet. But some current ASFS families will be pushed out of that zone as well.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 09:34
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They can lobby all they like. Alcova isn’t being moved.
Yes Henry is crowded. They won’t be able to keep everyone currently zoned to the school AND take Part of Long Branch. So, some current families are not going to be zoned to the new school.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 09:28
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
They have to take kids from Long Branch to make room for kids from Rosslyn/ASFS. with key lottery change, ASFS will be the most crowded elementary within 4 years.
Anonymous
01/10/2018 08:42
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
Anonymous wrote:I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Henry is massively overcrowded. I think they have enough for a second school without taking kids from Longbranch. Plus, I think ALcova Heights is lobbying very hard to move from Barcroft, even though Barcroft is the only school not projected to be overcapacity any time soon...
Anonymous
01/10/2018 07:57
Subject: Re:South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
I know Fleet is only about 3/4 of a mile from the current Patrick Henry site, but it is closer to the North/South Arlington line. I wonder if, when they're redrawing boundaries, more kids from north of Arlington Blvd will be zoned there.
Anonymous
01/07/2018 14:26
Subject: South Arlington elementary school boundary adjustments 2019
I think SOME of the elementary boundary changes (ie, the ones related to moving Montessori out of Drew and filling the new Fleet ES) will be effective as of 2019. Others (changes in locations of neighborhood vs. choice programs) will be later. Boundaries related to new school at Reed will obviously be later (when Reed opens).