Anonymous wrote:Being rich in a flyover metro is no different than being rich in a coastal city once you're married (with kids). Men work, go to kid's private school functions, drink good scotch alone in the basement while watching cable news at night. SAHMs do yoga, shop at Whole Foods, post on facebook. Your circle of friends is other execs, business owners, lawyers, doctors, professors. If you're jones'ing for the one Kennedy Center event you go to a year, fly to it. Flyover is only a risk for middle class who don't have the deep labor market bounce around.

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Pp here. I agree. I would never be jealous of a girl who married a car dealers son in the Midwest. I’d find that culture and setting totally suffocating.

But marrying a really smart successful guy who travels out of space, probably has interesting intellectually stimulating conversations, and comes from an accomplished educated family? Sure! Who doesn’t want that?

Personally I’d like to Be the smart accomplished person and married to a smart accomplished person. But this girl has an easy life but still has access to all of this by association. She’s automatically smart because her husband is smart. And I’m sure she learns something new every day. And her children will be super smart too.

This is where you are absurdly wrong.

How does she have conversations with her smart husband then?

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Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

+ high community status
+ best private schools
+ travel anywhere
+ in-laws' winter home in Naples, FL
+ in-laws' ski house in Vail, CO

Not a bad come up for a cute ditz who studied communications at a crummy college.

lol. bless your heart. I think you actually just can't conceive of a world where tenure at an R1 is more prestogious and desired than vacations at your in laws in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:People I am envious of:
My friend who just got tenure at an R1 university
My friend who has a killer design sense and just bought her 3rd investment property
My friend who literally built her own house by hand, travels the world, and is now getting a nursing degree
My friend who quit a sucky job and went out on her own as a consultant making more money working less time, spends her time on a multitude of creative hobbies and lives abroad part of the year
My other friend who quit HER sucky job after saving up mucho dinero and now sails around the world
All of these friends are 40+ and unmarried.

Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

OP, I'm not jealous of your niece's carefree 0.10% lifestyle, I'm jealous of these other 1% lifestyles a select few of my friends achieved. Also, those are much tougher and/or rely on too much luck/chance than merely being cute and targeting a rich boy in college.

what? none of my friends' lives depend on lucl of chance. They depend on talent, initiative, and hard work.

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Pp here. I agree. I would never be jealous of a girl who married a car dealers son in the Midwest. I’d find that culture and setting totally suffocating.

But marrying a really smart successful guy who travels out of space, probably has interesting intellectually stimulating conversations, and comes from an accomplished educated family? Sure! Who doesn’t want that?

Personally I’d like to Be the smart accomplished person and married to a smart accomplished person. But this girl has an easy life but still has access to all of this by association. She’s automatically smart because her husband is smart. And I’m sure she learns something new every day. And her children will be super smart too.

This is where you are absurdly wrong.

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Pp here. I agree. I would never be jealous of a girl who married a car dealers son in the Midwest. I’d find that culture and setting totally suffocating.

But marrying a really smart successful guy who travels out of space, probably has interesting intellectually stimulating conversations, and comes from an accomplished educated family? Sure! Who doesn’t want that?

Personally I’d like to Be the smart accomplished person and married to a smart accomplished person. But this girl has an easy life but still has access to all of this by association. She’s automatically smart because her husband is smart. And I’m sure she learns something new every day. And her children will be super smart too.

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Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

+ high community status
+ best private schools
+ travel anywhere
+ in-laws' winter home in Naples, FL
+ in-laws' ski house in Vail, CO

Not a bad come up for a cute ditz who studied communications at a crummy college.

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Anonymous wrote:People I am envious of:
My friend who just got tenure at an R1 university
My friend who has a killer design sense and just bought her 3rd investment property
My friend who literally built her own house by hand, travels the world, and is now getting a nursing degree
My friend who quit a sucky job and went out on her own as a consultant making more money working less time, spends her time on a multitude of creative hobbies and lives abroad part of the year
My other friend who quit HER sucky job after saving up mucho dinero and now sails around the world
All of these friends are 40+ and unmarried.

Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

OP, I'm not jealous of your niece's carefree 0.10% lifestyle, I'm jealous of these other 1% lifestyles a select few of my friends achieved. Also, those are much tougher and/or rely on too much luck/chance than merely being cute and targeting a rich boy in college.

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Life is hard enough with no guarantees.

It’s great if you want more degrees and certificates or whatever. But at the end of the day some women really know security. Marrying early into a rich family provides them with the guaranteed financial security that no prestigious job ever ever.

With a strategic and well timed marriage, they are guaranteed entry and membership into the upper class or upper middle class. They don’t have to take the gmats, work thankless ours trying to move up and be noticed. By marrying well they can be the wife of the hot shot engineer and have a father in law who is a ceo and rub shoulders with and be acknowledged by the best and the brightest.

Are you dumb or something? Do you not understand that they have access to this life at the pleasure of the husband/his family? Which can, and does, change on a whim? It's great if all ends well but if not, she'd be a dumped divorcee with no skills trying to start a life.

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I know a pretty girl who married an astronaut. She has never taken a high level calculus or physics classes. Doesn’t know much about geopolitical strife the Middle East but now has a father in law who is a law firm partner and she attends NASA rocket launches. Her social circle is filled with intelligent acconplished people who are changing the world. And she is rich and has access to their multiple properties.

She didn’t even have to work very hard to accomplish all this.

I don't even know how to explain this to you since it should be so obvious. You don't automatically enter a circle of smart accomplished people by marrying one of them because - please pay attention here - if you are not smart and accomplished yourself, these people have NO INTEREST in you. You have nothing to talk about. You bore them. You are there as a pretty piece of furniture owned by one of them, but unless you can carry your own conversation and say meaningful things, these people will not even notice you. You'll be a non-entity. Imagine that by some stroke of luck you found yourself at a party for the world's top ten bestselling authors. Do you think any of them would have a slightest interest in you just because you're there?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for you, OP. Truly I do. Your mind and world are so small and circumscribed.

She's cute but not the prettiest. She's not bright. She had fun in college, fun after college, married a schmuck rich kid who "manages" car dealers and is pampered. She's doing better than 99 out of 100 women her age that I know. Her template is one to follow.

I'm pretty sure you are a troll...or an idiot. Even if this is the right thing for her, surely you understand why her experience cannot be used as a template for anyone to follow.

If this is considered an achievement in your group of friends, I would not want to hang out with the people you know.

Life is hard enough with no guarantees.

It’s great if you want more degrees and certificates or whatever. But at the end of the day some women really know security. Marrying early into a rich family provides them with the guaranteed financial security that no prestigious job ever ever.

With a strategic and well timed marriage, they are guaranteed entry and membership into the upper class or upper middle class. They don’t have to take the gmats, work thankless ours trying to move up and be noticed. By marrying well they can be the wife of the hot shot engineer and have a father in law who is a ceo and rub shoulders with and be acknowledged by the best and the brightest.

I know a pretty girl who married an astronaut. She has never taken a high level calculus or physics classes. Doesn’t know much about geopolitical strife the Middle East but now has a father in law who is a law firm partner and she attends NASA rocket launches. Her social circle is filled with intelligent acconplished people who are changing the world. And she is rich and has access to their multiple properties.

She didn’t even have to work very hard to accomplish all this.

Still not my dreamlife, because I want to be successful myself and not only be the wife of a successful man, but sounds way better than marrying a car-dealer from the midwest.

Pp here. I agree. I would never be jealous of a girl who married a car dealers son in the Midwest. I’d find that culture and setting totally suffocating.

But marrying a really smart successful guy who travels out of space, probably has interesting intellectually stimulating conversations, and comes from an accomplished educated family? Sure! Who doesn’t want that?

Personally I’d like to Be the smart accomplished person and married to a smart accomplished person. But this girl has an easy life but still has access to all of this by association. She’s automatically smart because her husband is smart. And I’m sure she learns something new every day. And her children will be super smart too.

If you are not smart, marrying a smart person won't fool the other smart people you will meet through your spouse. But it might fool the stupid ones.

There must’ve been something special about her if he picked her over his fellow STEM major females.

Also isn’t it an accomplishment to snag a smart rich guy?

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Life is hard enough with no guarantees.

It’s great if you want more degrees and certificates or whatever. But at the end of the day some women really know security. Marrying early into a rich family provides them with the guaranteed financial security that no prestigious job ever ever.

With a strategic and well timed marriage, they are guaranteed entry and membership into the upper class or upper middle class. They don’t have to take the gmats, work thankless ours trying to move up and be noticed. By marrying well they can be the wife of the hot shot engineer and have a father in law who is a ceo and rub shoulders with and be acknowledged by the best and the brightest.

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I know a pretty girl who married an astronaut. She has never taken a high level calculus or physics classes. Doesn’t know much about geopolitical strife the Middle East but now has a father in law who is a law firm partner and she attends NASA rocket launches. Her social circle is filled with intelligent acconplished people who are changing the world. And she is rich and has access to their multiple properties.

She didn’t even have to work very hard to accomplish all this.

Anonymous wrote:People I am envious of:
My friend who just got tenure at an R1 university
My friend who has a killer design sense and just bought her 3rd investment property
My friend who literally built her own house by hand, travels the world, and is now getting a nursing degree
My friend who quit a sucky job and went out on her own as a consultant making more money working less time, spends her time on a multitude of creative hobbies and lives abroad part of the year
My other friend who quit HER sucky job after saving up mucho dinero and now sails around the world
All of these friends are 40+ and unmarried.

Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.