Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:28     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?


I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?


Is that part in the Republican budget?


No the Republican budget is all about taking from those in need and giving to billionaires.


I don't care about those in need. Got it? Your definition of need is dividing people into groups/classes and then playing them off against one another. Time for you to start supporting yourself, and flattening the tax code so EVERYONE pays an equal percentage.


Yep, we sure do. This is the Republican motto. You might as well write it into your party platform.



They already have. They are deplorable and cling to their guns and their God. Hillary and Obama were right.

Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:25     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Don't GAS about defense either. Privatize it. Cut the waste at the Pentagon.



Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with cutting waste, where ever it is.


Cut the military in Afghanistan and Niger-landlocked countries. No way we can even get our stuff out of those places.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:25     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?


I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?


Only with other people's money.


And this is the truth!

The outcry among liberals because it will cost them a few dollars surfaces their hypocrisy.


Yet none of you conservatives will admit where the extra tax dollars are going. Why is that?



I'm still waiting for you libs to tell us how much extra you're willing to pay. About three cents?


$50,000. But only if it goes to poor people.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:18     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Don't GAS about defense either. Privatize it. Cut the waste at the Pentagon.



Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with cutting waste, where ever it is.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:15     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?


That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.



Don't GAS. Privatize it. The government spends up spending five times what the provate sector does to get the same outcomes.


Don't GAS about defense either. Privatize it. Cut the waste at the Pentagon.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:01     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:I am not going to vote Republican again precisely because this tax Bill demonstrates they only care about the very top .05% of people whose wealth is generated through passive income and investments. The Republicans threw wage earning Americans under the bus.


I'll toss and turn for ten seconds in your honor.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 12:00     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

I am not going to vote Republican again precisely because this tax Bill demonstrates they only care about the very top .05% of people whose wealth is generated through passive income and investments. The Republicans threw wage earning Americans under the bus.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:51     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?


That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.



Don't GAS. Privatize it. The government spends up spending five times what the provate sector does to get the same outcomes.



Privatize all research. Yea that would make medications and medical procedures affordable. We also pay for NASA research that is then utilized by private companies to make consumer products. We need to stop that too. Other countries will pick up the technology gaps. #MAGA


Yes, because everything the government does suddenly becomes affordable. Social security and medicare are on a glide path to going broke and the "Affordable Care Act" is so affordable, that it's going tits up in half the states. GTFOH. You morons couldn't even put together a healthcare.gov WEBSITE for $600,000,000 and a three year schedule.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:46     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?


to stop the Immigration that is distorting the market dynamics, making more billionaires and destroying middle class families.

No H1Bs

No L1S

No F1s/OPTs

No H4s

NO to Hillary's plan for new H5B visa

Yes to e-Verify to protect US workers

No to Chain Migration, we cannot give welfare to the world. at least not until we help our own neighbors first.

Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:46     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?


That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.



Don't GAS. Privatize it. The government spends up spending five times what the provate sector does to get the same outcomes.



Privatize all research. Yea that would make medications and medical procedures affordable. We also pay for NASA research that is then utilized by private companies to make consumer products. We need to stop that too. Other countries will pick up the technology gaps. #MAGA


I did hear Amazon headquarters is thinking of Canada because of Trump immigration policies and lack of a tech-educated workforce in US. MAGA
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:45     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Let's just offshore overseas. Then you can have your progressive utopia with no tax base and no one wanting to work, cuz I'm tired of supporting a country where HALF the people are takers.

Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:43     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?


That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.



Don't GAS. Privatize it. The government spends up spending five times what the provate sector does to get the same outcomes.



Privatize all research. Yea that would make medications and medical procedures affordable. We also pay for NASA research that is then utilized by private companies to make consumer products. We need to stop that too. Other countries will pick up the technology gaps. #MAGA
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:43     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

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Anonymous wrote:Well said, Rand Paul.

"We have to understand that the owners of our businesses — the people we work for — are richer than us. They pay more taxes," Paul said. "But if you lower their taxes, they will either buy stuff or hire more people. If you raise their taxes, it goes into the nonproductive economy, which is Washington, D.C., and it will be squandered."

"So really, even if rich people get a tax cut, we should all stand up and cheer because it means more jobs for us because you're leaving more money in the private sector," Paul continued. "So I'm one of the few that will stand up on TV and say everybody's taxes should go down, including the wealthy."

What a naive/disnigenous idiot Rand Paul is. The rich are certainly not going to dispense any extra money. It's all going to remain safely in their hands. A toddler would know this.


Yes, the old "they will spend the money or hire more people" yarn is tiresome. Did that happen under GW Bush's tax cuts? No.

The wealthy hoard their wealth. They don't spread it around.




Pensions and market funds have more in the market than billionaires, but yes, their investments are needed too.

The wealthy invest in companies through the stock market. That's what keeps the companies going and what keeps the pay checks flowing. If they have to dissolve part of their wealth to pay more taxes, it gets pulled from the market and companies shrink in size and more people go on social programs, where the are unproductive and get money for doing nothing.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:40     Subject: Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?


I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?


Is that part in the Republican budget?


No the Republican budget is all about taking from those in need and giving to billionaires.


I don't care about those in need. Got it? Your definition of need is dividing people into groups/classes and then playing them off against one another. Time for you to start supporting yourself, and flattening the tax code so EVERYONE pays an equal percentage.


Then let's disband all property ownership and bank accounts so everyone can start from scratch.

Anonymous
Post 11/04/2017 11:36     Subject: Re:Why should I vote Republican after this tax plan?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want you to think about this... (rough numbers, not exact)

In 1999 Congress increased the NIH's budget by $2.3 billion[29] to $17.2 billion in 2000.[30] In 2009 Congress again increased the NIH budget to $31 billion in 2010.[30] In March 2017, President Trump proposed to cut the 2018 budget by 18.3%, or about $5.8 billion to $25.9 billion.[31]:26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health


Their budget has doubled in less than twenty years. That's a ridiculous debasement of our currency, especially when we borrow 45 cents out of every dollar the government spends. That's not going to go on forever. Wake up!

And how much has the defense budget gone up in that same time period?


That $2.3 billion increase included an additional $350 million for Alzheimer’s research, $200 million for the Precision Medicine Initiative, $85 million for the BRAIN Initiative, and $303 million for combating antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

The NIH also funds from the Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) and the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research (OBSSR) that supports our Global Obesity Prevention Center (GOPC) at Johns Hopkins University....and more

Failure to keep research funding at least on par of cost of living will also result in fewer people entering scientific fields. Slowing research would be a detriment to all of us as new infectious diseases appear.



Don't GAS. Privatize it. The government spends up spending five times what the provate sector does to get the same outcomes.