Anonymous wrote:Your student driver just learned a valuable lesson. Other drivers are jerks and you have to deal with them.

And OP, the adult driver advising the son, should have advised the son to slow down and to zipper in behind the jerk. Only fools keep proceeding by maintaining speed and trying to force a jerk out of the way. The son needs to learn that he needs to slow down or speed up to meet the conditions of traffic at the time (including the traffic condition of a jerk driver).

The only way to survive in this region driving is to be aggressive against the aggressive drivers. Good for you OP. Your son will survive in metro DC as an excellent driver.

This thread is going to be a classic genesis on how awful, aggressive Maryland drivers come to be - it's passed down through the generations.

And yes OP, you're clearly an aggressive one. Instead of admitting you BOTH ignored the sign (or don't read road signs, period), and you're still defending yourself and your son. Craziness.

Your son should have dropped back. It’s not worth fighting with another driver.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on home many people refuse to say thank you for letting them merge, pull in front of me, etc...I 100% REFUSE to let anyone pull in or merge in front of me now.

So you would cause an accident just because some people don't say thank you?

Yes.

Perfectly. Please give your license plate and general area. I really really could use an insurance payout

Tag is MD reading "KMA".

I'll leave it to you to figure out the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on home many people refuse to say thank you for letting them merge, pull in front of me, etc...I 100% REFUSE to let anyone pull in or merge in front of me now.

How would I say thank you to you, while we're both driving?

If a car lets me in, I hold my hand up from the driver's seat to show recognition and thanks.

Anonymous wrote:Rule of LIFE #1: there are jerks all around you.

FIFY

Anonymous wrote:As for the person who posted the photo of the intersection, thank you, and WOW you need to get a life. This is exactly what people have been talking about when they say there are many many people with mental illness. Obsessing to the point that you seek out the photo online is a sick thing to be doing PP. You are a sad group of people obsessing about an incident with a 16 year old driver and defending the aggressive driver. Why? I imagine you are all the asshole drivers we all encounter on a daily basis, and you feel the need to defend your own road rage incidents.

Wow - I'm the asshole?

I was genuinely interested in your post from the very beginning, since I couldn't picture the road configuration you were describing. I really don't think I've ever seen two lanes just turn into one like you described, and the Australian diagram you posted was helpful, but again, I've never seen that in real life on any local roads. I also have teenage drivers, so I'm also very interested and keenly aware of driver behavior - good and bad.

When you described the location, I was even more interested, since I drive that route everyday. Your description of the road configuration was just plain wrong, and in my experience, that is not a common "zipper" location. Most drivers seem to be aware even before the light that the right lane does not continue, and most favor the left lane well in advance. That is what I teach my teenage drivers - be aware of tricky road conditions in areas where you drive and position your vehicle in the safest way possible to avoid the need to make last minute tricky maneuvers. You were teaching the opposite behavior. Frankly, it is also a little disturbing that you described driving in this area frequently and "never noticed that sign." Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I had never noticed that sign to be honest. Because when there is a lot of traffic, that particular spot becomes a zipper merge. That is what people do over there.

There was an aggressive driver. My son came out in front because he was already slightly ahead of the driver. I didn't say to him to cut in anyway...he was just following the flow of the traffic, as he has done many times at that spot.

As for the person who posted the photo of the intersection, thank you, and WOW you need to get a life. This is exactly what people have been talking about when they say there are many many people with mental illness. Obsessing to the point that you seek out the photo online is a sick thing to be doing PP. You are a sad group of people obsessing about an incident with a 16 year old driver and defending the aggressive driver. Why? I imagine you are all the asshole drivers we all encounter on a daily basis, and you feel the need to defend your own road rage incidents.

You still don’t get it do you? It wasn’t the other driver being the aggressive driver it was your kid being instructed and encouraged to be the aggressive driver by his mother. The fact that the kid was “slightly ahead” is irrelevant. It is that lanes responsibility to merge safely. Even if that requires a full stop.

As for defending bad habits and road rage, please take a long look in the mirror. That’s where to begin.

Oh not, you are mistaken. I DO get it because I was there and saw the behavior of the aggressive driver against the 16 year old learning driver. You just can't let go, can you?

OP you are the only person here who can't let it go. You were wrong. End stop. You encouraged your child to drive incorrectly. End stop. You have insulted people throughout this thread. End stop.

And knock it off with using mental illness as a pejorative.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I had never noticed that sign to be honest. Because when there is a lot of traffic, that particular spot becomes a zipper merge. That is what people do over there.

There was an aggressive driver. My son came out in front because he was already slightly ahead of the driver. I didn't say to him to cut in anyway...he was just following the flow of the traffic, as he has done many times at that spot.

As for the person who posted the photo of the intersection, thank you, and WOW you need to get a life. This is exactly what people have been talking about when they say there are many many people with mental illness. Obsessing to the point that you seek out the photo online is a sick thing to be doing PP. You are a sad group of people obsessing about an incident with a 16 year old driver and defending the aggressive driver. Why? I imagine you are all the asshole drivers we all encounter on a daily basis, and you feel the need to defend your own road rage incidents.

You still don’t get it do you? It wasn’t the other driver being the aggressive driver it was your kid being instructed and encouraged to be the aggressive driver by his mother. The fact that the kid was “slightly ahead” is irrelevant. It is that lanes responsibility to merge safely. Even if that requires a full stop.

As for defending bad habits and road rage, please take a long look in the mirror. That’s where to begin.

Oh not, you are mistaken. I DO get it because I was there and saw the behavior of the aggressive driver against the 16 year old learning driver. You just can't let go, can you?

Sounds like OP and the son could use Drivers Ed.

And I agree the student driver magnets are hurting you. No one wants a student driver in front of them.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I had never noticed that sign to be honest. Because when there is a lot of traffic, that particular spot becomes a zipper merge. That is what people do over there.

There was an aggressive driver. My son came out in front because he was already slightly ahead of the driver. I didn't say to him to cut in anyway...he was just following the flow of the traffic, as he has done many times at that spot.

As for the person who posted the photo of the intersection, thank you, and WOW you need to get a life. This is exactly what people have been talking about when they say there are many many people with mental illness. Obsessing to the point that you seek out the photo online is a sick thing to be doing PP. You are a sad group of people obsessing about an incident with a 16 year old driver and defending the aggressive driver. Why? I imagine you are all the asshole drivers we all encounter on a daily basis, and you feel the need to defend your own road rage incidents.

You still don’t get it do you? It wasn’t the other driver being the aggressive driver it was your kid being instructed and encouraged to be the aggressive driver by his mother. The fact that the kid was “slightly ahead” is irrelevant. It is that lanes responsibility to merge safely. Even if that requires a full stop.

As for defending bad habits and road rage, please take a long look in the mirror. That’s where to begin.

Anonymous wrote:It's not that hard to get a google street view photo. It was helpful to the thread for the PP to post the picture as many posters did not believe your story that it was an alternate merge.

Also, really? Streets sign don't matter when you drive? You go by feels?

I realize it is not hard, but to obsess about it to that level is just sick. Sick sick people on this thread!!