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No, we're talking about basic safety and fall prevention for very vulnerable patients (newborns). Fall prevention is a basic safety issue in hospitals. Leaving a newborn with a drugged/exhausted/post-surgery non-ambulatory mom is NOT safe. That's the whole point here. You're acting like nurses are babysitters; they're actually caring for TWO vulnerable patients. I mean, what would you think if the post-partum nurses were themselves on morphine, couldn't walk, had just gotten out of surgery, or hadn't slept for 4 days? Would you think they were fit to care for infants, or anyone?

This is such a great damn point.

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Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

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if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

cleaning the room is also simple. should postpartum mothers and their friends do this?

Not in between patients obviously but I honestly don’t remember anyone cleaning my postpartum room in the 3 days I was there so what’s your point?

ok, how about taking out garbage and cooking? should we have kitchens in the room?

Are you arguing that nurses should do that? Because this debate is about what a nurse is supposed to help you with. Start a new thread if you’d like to complain about the hopsital’s non-medical facilities management.

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No, we're talking about basic safety and fall prevention for very vulnerable patients (newborns). Fall prevention is a basic safety issue in hospitals. Leaving a newborn with a drugged/exhausted/post-surgery non-ambulatory mom is NOT safe. That's the whole point here. You're acting like nurses are babysitters; they're actually caring for TWO vulnerable patients. I mean, what would you think if the post-partum nurses were themselves on morphine, couldn't walk, had just gotten out of surgery, or hadn't slept for 4 days? Would you think they were fit to care for infants, or anyone?

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Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

cleaning the room is also simple. should postpartum mothers and their friends do this?

Not in between patients obviously but I honestly don’t remember anyone cleaning my postpartum room in the 3 days I was there so what’s your point?

ok, how about taking out garbage and cooking? should we have kitchens in the room?

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Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

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Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

cleaning the room is also simple. should postpartum mothers and their friends do this?

Not in between patients obviously but I honestly don’t remember anyone cleaning my postpartum room in the 3 days I was there so what’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

cleaning the room is also simple. should postpartum mothers and their friends do this?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

They are when the newborn is a patient, see, e.g., what is done in NICU.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Come back down to earth. We’re talking about holding and changing healthy newborns. These are not “professional services.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.

you are insane. we don't live in huts. people move a lot and their friends don't necessarily live in the area. i don't want to burden my friends with this and don't want to be constantly on hook to care for other people's babies .

besides, friends are not substitutes for professional services. do you friends clean your teeth, do your hair, vacuum your apartment? do you ask your friends to come to your hotel to change hotel towels? aren't they the village?

hospital bills are insanely huge - it costs more to spend a night at the hospital than to stay at NYC ritz suite for new year's eve. for that money absolutely preposterous and outrageous to expect that people bring their friends to shoulder the burden of care.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Honey, I’m actually a lawyer, you know, the kind of person you’d hire to sue GW for all the awful crap they inflicted on you. Except you’d have no case.

Don't get smug. This is DCUM. We're all lawyers.

Yeah, so why are all these rich lawyers bitching about how wronged they were by an excellent hospital?! Once again, the entitlement is repulsive.

So rich women should hire outside medical professionals to ensure they and their babies actually receive appropriate medical care during recovery, got it. Very Malawi.

+1
if birth cost $1000 then maybe. but for the money they are charging all hospitals should be able to afford nurseries and sufficient nursing staff.

for my first i didn't want to have my husband at birth and the nurses told me "we need him to help". what? it seems that hospitals are estimating their staffing needs based on the assumption that hundreds of thousands of free help hours will be available. and then they charge an equivalent of the some the world's most expensive hotels.

Weird to build a model around the assumption that there are no single moms.

Single mothers have family and friends. What happened to, “It takes a village”? Hospitals are left carrying the weight because people apparently don’t have the support networks they used to. A bit similar to the predicament public schools find themselves in.