Anonymous wrote:I teach my DS that unless he's in serious, imminent physical danger, he's not to hit girls.
In that situation the boy should have involved an adult.

Bring it to an adult level. A woman scratches a guy, leaving nail marks, then scratches his face, then punches him in the nuts. Is this not physical danger? What else is she going to do? He was defending himself.

Anonymous wrote:I teach my DS that unless he's in serious, imminent physical danger, he's not to hit girls.
In that situation the boy should have involved an adult.

I guess you don't want grandchildren since you are OK with girls kicking your DS's nuts in with retaliation.

I teach my DS that unless he's in serious, imminent physical danger, he's not to hit girls.
In that situation the boy should have involved an adult.

Anonymous wrote:He was really egging her on. I was that girl at that age. I remember a very similar situation with a boy who was teasing me, laughing at me when I told him to stop, just really pushing my buttons. I did in fact scratch the crap out of him, too. Then he jumped on my back and we had like a wrestle mania thing happen until his mom came screaming towards us to break it up. She fully blamed me. So, knowing how the girl in OP's post felt, I think the boy was really asking for it. He SHOULD have backed off before it escalated physically. Or He should have backed off after the first scratch.

That said, my family eventually drilled it into me that I needed to walk away or ignore when other kids (always boys) teased me, because they were looking for a reaction. The girl in this situation could learn how to better deal with this kind of kid.

I think ultimately the boy is in the wrong here since he really goaded her.

You are an idiot. He called her by a nickname she didn't like, but it wasn't derogatory. He was annoying like tons of kids his age. She could have gone off to play with someone else or call him a name right back. Instead she assaulted him. 3 times before he defended himself. Hell, at least she hopefully learned her lesson. I would have punched her too.

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Anonymous wrote:Both were wrong.

In college I slapped a guy once for being suggestive and rude. He backhanded me and I landed on the floor. He gave me a black eye.

A man should never hit a woman. A woman should never physically attack a man as it's not safe.

Hopefully both kids will learn this lesson.

So, what are you saying proud Mary?? You can slap him, but he can't slap you? Hypocrite. How about using words? I am tired of this topic where woman go around saying men can't hit women even if a woman hits a guy first. It is wrong, I am for equality, start acting like a person and not like a woman and maybe you will have equal rights. Women like you make me sick.

Well fuck me if this didn't make my twisted side laugh. Not funny, but didn't see that coming.

Wow, what is wrong with this girl??? My daughter gets teased by her brothers/cousins ALL THE TIME, and it can be a lot nastier than calling her by a nickname. She just ignores or gives lip back. How is this girl going to handle real life? There are annoying people everywhere, but I don't go around hitting them. She's going to end up arrested or unconscious if her mom doesn't talk to her about not physically attacking people. Yikes!

Anonymous wrote:Nobody should punch another person, ever. Two wrongs don't make a right. Both are equally at fault.

so a person should never ever defend themselves ?
there's no situation in which you are allowed to physically defend yourself when you're being physically assaulted ?

I don't care how old she is, if some stupid bitch intentionally hits me in the nuts i'm knocking the shit out of her. How would you feel if I punched you in the overies so hard it damaged your reproductive tract?

Girl and her mom need to be shown the jot mixon video - its better to lean this lesson in middle school than in college

If a kid can't handle being called a nickname they don't have enough resilience to deal with life. All kids at some point tease or annoy or bug another kid. Teach your kids to handle that.

And this whole line of posts about how real men can't be hurt by a woman. How real men should learn to stand and take it. How women can't really hurt men so men need to learn to let women express their frustration by scratching and hitting.

really - that is what you are teaching your sons and daughters. Why teach your sons that they don't deserve to be treated with respect. You teach your daughters that they can treat a man however they want and if he ever reacts then he wasn't a real man. Sad and scary.

If it were my son, I wouldn't be thrilled, because we have talked about deescalation. But he does have a right to defend himself. I'd discuss with him why continuing to annoy her with the teasing was wrong. And go over what he could have done better.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me say this with our reading the entirety of this asinine thread.

Girl should never have engaged in her behavior at all. Boy should have WALKED AWAY. It is dangerous to give boys the message its ok to hit a girl if she starts it. HELL NO. When he grows into a 180 lb man and punches a woman in the face HE CAN KILL HER.

There is not a double standard her. Men are physically stronger than women. Scratching a man will not kill him, a woman hitting a man will most likely not kill him, but a woman being punched in the face CAN be FATAL, and at the very least, disfiguring.

So, that means that you, a woman, are empowered to hit me, a man. But I can not defend myself. WRONG.

IT IS NOT OK FOR YOU OR THE GIRL TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE. I AM ALLOWED TO DEFEND MYSELF IF ATTACKED. YOU ATTACK ME, I AM FIGHTING BACK.

Thats not what i said dipshit. Nobody said it was ok for a woman to hit a man.
Oooh, wanna hit me?

The fact is that the BALANCE of PHYSICAL STRENGTH between a man and a woman is with the MAN. A little boy who learns that punching girls back is "ok" because "she started it" grows into man with dominant physical strength who can severely or fatally injure a woman. How about you just be A MAN and walk away? Men like you are disgusting.

You are a piece of work. If you assault me, I defend myself.

I have been in one physical altercation as an adult. And that was with a woman. Only, I did nothing but crumple to the ground in agony when she assaulted me.

As for killing her, well, in a fight, that is a possibility. If you were to assault me today, if I chose to fight back, it will be with full fury. Why? I am defending myself. I do not believe in fighting half assed.

That is why I don't fight. Kind of like pulling a weapon. You pull a weapon, you go for the kill. The proper thing to do is to de-escallate this. In the original situation, neither side did it. But, the girl with no justification, kicked him in the nuts. It is a very effective way to 1) stop a male, and 2) enrage a male. It is only justified in self defense -- to stop an assault, then run as fast as hell. That is not what happened here. The girl made the first physical contact, and then escalated. The boy was protecting himself.

Or are you such a man hater that you can not see it There is a word that rhymes with twitch that comes to mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy was assaulted - actually sexually assaulted.

Girl was pushed / hit in self defense / response to being assaulted.

Using a nickname isn't bullying. It is immature.

It absolutely is bullying once you've been asked to stop. I also suspect this isn't the first time this boy has been after this girl.

NP here. It's called teasing. No wonder you are raising such weak children who cut and kill themselves because they can't cope with minor things.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Times change.

If I had ever hit a girl in this sort of situation, no matter who instigated it, my dad would have kicked my ass something awful. And the worst part would have been the unrelenting grief I would have gotten from my peers! A boy hitting a girl was something that just doesn't happen. You walk away, control the situation, move and avoid getting hit, laugh, whatever. But hit a girl? No chance.

Times do change. I was taught boys shouldn't hit girls, but I was also taught (as a girl) that I shouldn't act like an asshole and take advantage of that. What has changed is the whole "Girl Power" push that allows girls to feel empowered to act like assholes and prove that they are tough with no consequences.

I have seen this with my sons. They've each come home from school with bruises on their shins and scratch marks all over their arms. Girls (4th - 6th grade) mess with them to get their attention and think it's funny that the boys can't do anything about it. The teacher has told me it's how some girls flirt with boys they like. Of course my boys know better than to retaliate. The most they can do is tell them to stop it or to ignore them, which causes the girls to do it even more.

I was taught that people shouldn't hit people. And I'm 50 years old, so this isn't exactly a new idea.

Yes!! I was also taught that you don'the hit a guy there unless it'seems self defence.

Uh, this WAS self-defense. She was attacking him.

+1

I kicked a boy's arse in retaliation once. His parents called my parents. My parents said why did he think his behavior was okay? Score one on my parents.

Don't start something you can't finish.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me say this with our reading the entirety of this asinine thread.

Girl should never have engaged in her behavior at all. Boy should have WALKED AWAY. It is dangerous to give boys the message its ok to hit a girl if she starts it. HELL NO. When he grows into a 180 lb man and punches a woman in the face HE CAN KILL HER.

There is not a double standard her. Men are physically stronger than women. Scratching a man will not kill him, a woman hitting a man will most likely not kill him, but a woman being punched in the face CAN be FATAL, and at the very least, disfiguring.

So, that means that you, a woman, are empowered to hit me, a man. But I can not defend myself. WRONG.

IT IS NOT OK FOR YOU OR THE GIRL TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE. I AM ALLOWED TO DEFEND MYSELF IF ATTACKED. YOU ATTACK ME, I AM FIGHTING BACK.

Thats not what i said dipshit. Nobody said it was ok for a woman to hit a man.
Oooh, wanna hit me?

The fact is that the BALANCE of PHYSICAL STRENGTH between a man and a woman is with the MAN. A little boy who learns that punching girls back is "ok" because "she started it" grows into man with dominant physical strength who can severely or fatally injure a woman. How about you just be A MAN and walk away? Men like you are disgusting.

DP. How about you just be a WOMAN/Human Being and just walk away??? Isn't that what being EQUAL means? So many hypocrite women on this thread, I want to be a princess and I want to have all the rights, but you be the MAN and walk away. I am embarrassed that your are of my gender.