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That video is beyond atrocious!! Lol "all you need to do is f*ck" that is crazy

I come from a rural low SES background (so white trash by DCUM standards) and I don't know any women who got pregnant to "trap" a man.

I know a few women who intentionally got pregnant when the dudes didn't necessarily want a baby. In those situations, the primary motivator was that the women wanted a baby, not getting the man. Two of the women couldn't have cared less if the father stuck around and neither of the guys did. In the third situation, the couple really love each other and it turned out the guy (my cousin) was really excited to be a dad and they got married a few years later. They're really happy together and recently welcomed their second child.

I also know a few truly unintended pregnancies involving teens that weren't careful enough with birth control methods or just didn't understand how to effectively use birth control (yay abstinence only education!). My sister got pregnant on accident in high school when the condom broke. She did NOT want a kid and was terrified to be pregnant. Her then boyfriend was and is a complete loser and getting pregnant was a huge wake up call for her. He bailed pretty quickly after the baby was born and my sister and child were much better off without him. Another cousin didn't realize her low hormone BC pill had to be taken at the same time every day (yes she should have known that but 18 year olds can be pretty stupid) and wound up pregnant. Hers was another situation where the guy turned out to be really happy to be a father and they got married several years after their son was born and are very happy together.

But no "I better squeeze out a kid ASAP to make this guy stick around!" Pretty much everyone knows that if a guy wants to leave you, a baby isn't going to sway things (or won't for longer than a few months), guys skip out on their families all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't want to get trapped, don't put sperm in them.

Except on the "didn't actually get a vasectomy" and "didn't pull out in time" thread we learn how entrapment is abuse. But like many things in life, I guess it's only abuse if men do it.

His stupidity in trusting his partner (lesson men: never trust women -- if you do, they'll just call you stupid later for doing so) does not justify her abuse.

Yes, it is fraud for a woman to entrap a man with a pregnancy. However, unless the man is mentally challenged, he needs to understand that birth control fails, people forget to take pills, and some people even lie. Therefore, as I told the young men in my family, do not leave sperm anywhere it can be used to make a baby.

It's not about "justifying" abuse. It's about retaining ownership and control over your own DNA and not giving possession of it to a third party. Once you relinquish possession of your sperm, you leave yourself at the mercy of a third party.

You fail to understand my point. In previous threads about men who tricked women into getting pregnant, a large percentage of posters claimed this was abuse. Links to domestic abuse hotlines were provided.

While both partners should take precautions to avoid pregnancy, it is still equally as abusive to purposefully entrap a man as it is to entrap a woman. It is not just fraud. It is abuse.

The point about trust was just a personal observation. A majority of posters here believe that men would be stupid to trust the women they are dating to not abuse them. I agree. But have you all fully thought through the consequences of living in a society where the vast majority of men fully understand they should never trust the women they are dating?

(Fwiw I am happily married with multiple kids. I think it's I'll advised to have sex outside of marriage at all, so I offer these comments as sociological observation only).

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Anonymous wrote:Well, prior to getting married I was dating my now DW who was in the US on a green card. She got pregnant. I was content to stay single but she said we needed to get married because . . . well . . . something about the child's citizenship status in her home country. It sounded kind of important, like the child's status could be lessened if the child ever decided to live in that country as an adult. So we got married. A couple years after we were married DW said, oops, she was wrong about the need to get married. And oh by the way, now that we are married I can get a better, longer term green card (marriage visa) than the one I have. I wonder if I was taken on a ride, in more ways than one.

There is no "better, longer term" green card. A green card means permanent residency. Permanent means "forever". There is nothing longer than "forever." There is no such thing as "marriage visa".

Si. Marry for two years then divorce, keep greencard! Then when anchor babi is 18 Casa de Maryland has anchor babi sponsor mi citizenship.

Nope. Mom can apply for citizenship long before anchor (not accurate here) is 18. But anchor baby can't sponsor grandma and grandpa. Mom must do the citizenship paperwork, then grandma can move here.

America is awesome!!

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Anonymous wrote:I...don't know if anyone who's done that in real life. Do you and your mom watch a lot of telenovelas?

Holy shit, this is the oldest trick in the book for women. I'd say about 25% of the hags on here are guilty. Don't worry honey, you don't have to use a condom because I'm on the pill...NOT!

Well that doesn't make the guys who fell for it too bright either, now does it?