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Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

No, it's more a thread about people who have incredibly unbalanced lives.

Then don't complain that you don't have enough $$$. Balance is for people with a financial cushion.

Um... nobody was complaining about lack of $$$ on this thread. In most positions, more work =\= more money.

Also, making more money doesn't buy happiness. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019628,00.html

I'd rather be in a place where my basic needs are met and I have flexibility and free time than a big salary and no time (and I've been in both situations). Our HHI is above the national median, and while it's not a huge $$$, we are happy and balanced.

Great. Not sure how this relates to other people who are willing to have their lives be a bit unbalanced to make more money, or who have no choice but to work long hours.

When I traveled for work you could say I worked those hours since travel time and airport time counted, so if you were flying to Europe or Asia, that was a huge block of time right there. Although I was formally working according to company policy, I was probably asleep, reading, having a meal at an airport restaurant, etc.

DW claims 60 hrs/week. He commutes 90m/day and takes meetings by phone, so he counts those hours. He does at least an hour (sometimes 2) after then kids are in bed (or while they are getting ready for bed), and typically 2-3 hrs on the weekends.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

No, it's more a thread about people who have incredibly unbalanced lives.

Then don't complain that you don't have enough $$$. Balance is for people with a financial cushion.

Um... nobody was complaining about lack of $$$ on this thread. In most positions, more work =\= more money.

Also, making more money doesn't buy happiness. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019628,00.html

I'd rather be in a place where my basic needs are met and I have flexibility and free time than a big salary and no time (and I've been in both situations). Our HHI is above the national median, and while it's not a huge $$$, we are happy and balanced.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

No, it's more a thread about people who have incredibly unbalanced lives.

Then don't complain that you don't have enough $$$. Balance is for people with a financial cushion.

I don't doubt that people work that long, and do so on a regular basis. It just makes me feel incredibly sad for them. Ok, thats an overstatement. I feel incredibly sad for unsettled refugees. I just think it's a sad reflection of our cult of work in the US. I know many of the people in these situations would agree, but for whatever reason they are stuck. Even if it's the golden handcuffs -- the high pay that they cant walk away from because their debts or lifestyle costs are too high. That's still sad, and it's exhausting. Despite a great education, I have chosen an easier path for me and my family. I still feel like a wage slave at times, and my job isnt as fulfilling as I wished, but it's a "good job." I urge my children to pursue their passions seriously, so that they may have the opportunity to pursue them as a livelihood in the future. I also would tell them there's nothing wrong with opting out of the rat race and going somewhere where a balanced, fulfilling life is more sustainable.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

No, it's more a thread about people who have incredibly unbalanced lives.

But they're proud of it, gosh darn it!

I've had projects where I worked that much, for up to around 9 months at a time. Literally all work, no checking the news or FaceBook. It's really difficult but sometimes necessary. It really negatively impacts your life.

Really? My dh is in finance. I remember very well back when he was a new hire - 80 hour weeks were the norm. He's probably down to 55/60 now but that's because he has grunts, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I definitely was pulling more than 10 hours a day, thank you very much. Don't tell me I was not. And 12 hours was a good day.

Ugh. At a $50k salary, that's less than $22/hour for 190 days. You'd be better off tending bar.

If you don't mind having pretty much no benefits and if you don't mind working when everyone else is off....yeah, bartending may be the job for you.

Ex-DH is a bartender / beverage manager. There's a union in DC, and he's gotten better benefits than me at his last several jobs--100% paid health, free parking, free dry cleaning, gym, meals, etc. Typically made $80-90k. Yes, the downside is working weird hours, but there's a certain kind of person who really thrives in that environment, and enjoys being off while everyone else is working.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, come on. More than 10 hours a day every single day? I don't buy it.

How old are you?

38, tail end of GenX. Have been director level at my last 4 positions, have a PhD, am involved in volunteer / board service, etc., so I'm no slacker.

I know there are situations where a 50-60 hour week is unavoidable, and I've been there. And sure, there's the business owner, etc. who is really manning the register for 80 hours... but I also think that a lot of people over-estimate the hours they work, and that very few people who claim to work 70-hour weeks actually do so.

Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

No, it's more a thread about people who have incredibly unbalanced lives.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, come on. More than 10 hours a day every single day? I don't buy it.

How old are you?

Is this thread a reflection on lazy millennials?? They can't comprehend something they are unwilling to do, even if it makes a difference between having your own place and a paid off things??

My DH truly works a lot! No joke. He works from before 7 till 6pm and then one day a weekend, usually over 9 hours. And most Sundays from home. He is overseas with gov now, so not really an issue for me and the kids. He has always worked long hours though, even before overseas posting, and he used to work two jobs. The truth is he doesn't need to work that many hours, he doesn't know how to not work. He is the only person I ever met that works that much though. It is some stress from his parents not having enough money for his whole childhood and young adulthood and he even lent them money when he was 20. He is truly an exception, most people I know do not work half of what he does. He is 50, so maybe more people that age can relate.