Anonymous
Post 02/02/2017 09:17     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a surprise because they told us it didn't convey, but the washing machine. That in itself I didn't find odd, but they left the dryer. I was glad I only had to buy one and not both, but I still found it weird.

I would have bought both so they match.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2017 09:13     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:This was many decades ago, but we bought a house that had the permanently installed phones ripped out of the walls, leaving big holes, and a tub with a drain that wasn't attached, so we ended up with a flood into the living room ceiling. Also, they stated they wanted the Ducane grill system but didn't take it. Six months after we took possession, on the fourth of July, they called to say they were coming to get it. We removed the new parts we had ordered and installed before they arrived.


Um no. I would have called the police. Six months later? No. If they called a few days later, maybe a week, even a month I would think that is reasonable. 6 months? Nope. It's our grill now.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:57     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
This was many decades ago, but we bought a house that had the permanently installed phones ripped out of the walls, leaving big holes, and a tub with a drain that wasn't attached, so we ended up with a flood into the living room ceiling. Also, they stated they wanted the Ducane grill system but didn't take it. Six months after we took possession, on the fourth of July, they called to say they were coming to get it. We removed the new parts we had ordered and installed before they arrived.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:53     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:Ugh, if taking what is "yours" involves using tools to dismantle/remove from the walls and take down - it is a fixture of the house that isn't "yours" anymore unless it is specifically stated that those things do not convey.

I can not even imagine showing a house with custom closet shelving in place and then removing it at the time of the sale as a nasty little surprise for the new owner.

I'm shocked that people do that actually.


The wall mounted tv includes using tools to remove. Not the tv, but the bracket that holds it that is mounted to the wall. You know, the one that is sized to fit the tv I'm taking with me.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:52     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:It its a fixture attached to a wall (closet fixtures, wall sconces, towel bars, curtain rods) it goes with the house unless you exempted it in the contract. That's real estate law. If you take stuff like this you risk negating the sale.


DC law? Or NOVA law?

Drapes are not attached to the walls. The rods are but drapes are not.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:51     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh, if taking what is "yours" involves using tools to dismantle/remove from the walls and take down - it is a fixture of the house that isn't "yours" anymore unless it is specifically stated that those things do not convey.

I can not even imagine showing a house with custom closet shelving in place and then removing it at the time of the sale as a nasty little surprise for the new owner.

I'm shocked that people do that actually.


By that argument, basic artwork and other things should be left too. For us, tools are no big deal. Our house came with nothing and we are slowing redoing everything. Why leave stuff that you spent a lot of time picking out to have to replace it all? If I choose a color curtain rod, more than likely the new owner will want something different and replace it. So, it will get tossed when I could reuse it.


Uh, no. Taking a picture off the wall is not the same as removing drapery rods from the wall or disassembling a *installed* closet shelving.


It is exactly the same thing as taking drapes off the wall.

Have you never done any work around your house? Or do you hire out everything?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:44     Subject: Re:Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised how many people think window treatments, like the curtains not blinds, should stay. Do you expect the shower curtain to be left?


In the contract language, window treatments do convey. Unless you write in that they don't.

And yeah a shower curtain liner is nice if you leave it. Who wants to spend a full day moving and then not have a shower curtain to shower with the first night?


Who wants to use someone else's used shower curtain? Ew.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:43     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
It its a fixture attached to a wall (closet fixtures, wall sconces, towel bars, curtain rods) it goes with the house unless you exempted it in the contract. That's real estate law. If you take stuff like this you risk negating the sale.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:36     Subject: Re:Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised how many people think window treatments, like the curtains not blinds, should stay. Do you expect the shower curtain to be left?


I Agree.

Blinds yes.

Rods maybe.

Urtains? No. Just no. Those are a decor item, not a permanent fixture.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:29     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
The good stove, swapped with a craigslist special.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:22     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh, if taking what is "yours" involves using tools to dismantle/remove from the walls and take down - it is a fixture of the house that isn't "yours" anymore unless it is specifically stated that those things do not convey.

I can not even imagine showing a house with custom closet shelving in place and then removing it at the time of the sale as a nasty little surprise for the new owner.

I'm shocked that people do that actually.


By that argument, basic artwork and other things should be left too. For us, tools are no big deal. Our house came with nothing and we are slowing redoing everything. Why leave stuff that you spent a lot of time picking out to have to replace it all? If I choose a color curtain rod, more than likely the new owner will want something different and replace it. So, it will get tossed when I could reuse it.


Uh, no. Taking a picture off the wall is not the same as removing drapery rods from the wall or disassembling a *installed* closet shelving.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:19     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I paid $1,000 for my ELFA closet systems...so yes I'm taking those bitches with me. Just pointing that out.


Take them down before you show the house then. I know how ELFA is mounted (the top rack drilled into the wall, the rest hanging on those racks), so it's not totally unreasonable to take it, but you shouldn't show the house with it in place.


+1
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:18     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people bother to take light bulbs! The last thing I want to do is move more stuff.


Taking the light bulbs, shower curtain rods, drapery rods, blinds, smoke detectors and....leaving a slowly dying fish in the highest kitchen cabinet....would all be indicators to me that the seller had a Big Time problem with the buyer.

I also can't imagine an amiable seller taking all of the window treatments w/o being clear to the buyer that they did not convey.






I would assume they're just a cheap douche. Lots of those out there.

Or they have anger issues.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:14     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Anonymous wrote:Ugh, if taking what is "yours" involves using tools to dismantle/remove from the walls and take down - it is a fixture of the house that isn't "yours" anymore unless it is specifically stated that those things do not convey.

I can not even imagine showing a house with custom closet shelving in place and then removing it at the time of the sale as a nasty little surprise for the new owner.

I'm shocked that people do that actually.


By that argument, basic artwork and other things should be left too. For us, tools are no big deal. Our house came with nothing and we are slowing redoing everything. Why leave stuff that you spent a lot of time picking out to have to replace it all? If I choose a color curtain rod, more than likely the new owner will want something different and replace it. So, it will get tossed when I could reuse it.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2017 23:11     Subject: Surprise! What did the seller take with them that you expected would stay with the house?
Yeah, taking the drapes or blinds or window treatments or closet rods (even if they are elfa!) is pretty tacky. Even if you spent $20,000 on them. These are the same people that order separate checks at large group dinners ("I just had a salad!")