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Anonymous wrote:The mod should change the title of this thread. OP was really asking birthright citizenship but singled out Chinese for some reasons (racism against Chinese?).

Birthright citizenship is wrong not matter what race

But the reality is it is the Chinese that abuse it the most. There are tourism operators targeting this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/welcome-to-maternity-hotel-california-20150819

The title of this post is racist. The US constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, but the OP thinks Chinese should be excluded from it. If the title was using words like Muslim, you bet the mod would delete or lock the thread.

Agree. Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. For everyone. That means you don't get to selectively decide some groups are worthier than others.

And by the way, birthright citizenship is one of the things that makes this country great. Just in case any Trump supporters were looking for something beyond his empty rhetoric.

Agree that Birthright citizenship for people residing here is fine. The problem is birthright citizenship for people "just passing through."

Nope, that's not what it says.

Anyway, why should you care? If they're not here, they're not putting a strain on the economy or whatever you think the problem is. Plenty of US citizens are expats and no one moans about them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mod should change the title of this thread. OP was really asking birthright citizenship but singled out Chinese for some reasons (racism against Chinese?).

Birthright citizenship is wrong not matter what race

But the reality is it is the Chinese that abuse it the most. There are tourism operators targeting this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/welcome-to-maternity-hotel-california-20150819

The title of this post is racist. The US constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, but the OP thinks Chinese should be excluded from it. If the title was using words like Muslim, you bet the mod would delete or lock the thread.

Agree. Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. For everyone. That means you don't get to selectively decide some groups are worthier than others.

And by the way, birthright citizenship is one of the things that makes this country great. Just in case any Trump supporters were looking for something beyond his empty rhetoric.

+1

The moment you start changing it to exclude a certain group of people based on their country of origin or race, this country will cease to be great. China and Mexico don't grant birthright citizenship. Maybe OP likes to model our law based on Chinese or Mexican laws?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mod should change the title of this thread. OP was really asking birthright citizenship but singled out Chinese for some reasons (racism against Chinese?).

Birthright citizenship is wrong not matter what race

But the reality is it is the Chinese that abuse it the most. There are tourism operators targeting this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/welcome-to-maternity-hotel-california-20150819

The title of this post is racist. The US constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, but the OP thinks Chinese should be excluded from it. If the title was using words like Muslim, you bet the mod would delete or lock the thread.

Agree. Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. For everyone. That means you don't get to selectively decide some groups are worthier than others.

And by the way, birthright citizenship is one of the things that makes this country great. Just in case any Trump supporters were looking for something beyond his empty rhetoric.

Agree that Birthright citizenship for people residing here is fine. The problem is birthright citizenship for people "just passing through."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mod should change the title of this thread. OP was really asking birthright citizenship but singled out Chinese for some reasons (racism against Chinese?).

Birthright citizenship is wrong not matter what race

But the reality is it is the Chinese that abuse it the most. There are tourism operators targeting this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/welcome-to-maternity-hotel-california-20150819

The title of this post is racist. The US constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, but the OP thinks Chinese should be excluded from it. If the title was using words like Muslim, you bet the mod would delete or lock the thread.

Agree. Birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. For everyone. That means you don't get to selectively decide some groups are worthier than others.

And by the way, birthright citizenship is one of the things that makes this country great. Just in case any Trump supporters were looking for something beyond his empty rhetoric.

Link please?

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Anonymous wrote:Its a terrible practice. If a child is born on US soil and parents have legitimate connection to US (is living here long term on work visas or green card) then a mechanism can e created to apply for citizenship. Fly in, give birth, fly out... No.

So what? What's wrong with immigrants?

Too many immigrants increases the supply of workers and reduces wages for existing US citizens. Increases profits for ceos. We have had controlled immigration for most of the last 150 years. We have had abundant natural resources during that time . It has gone out of control in last 20 since 1990 immigration act.

Now if you are a democrat that idea will be hard to understand because your brain will be conditioned to scream racist , preventing any rational thought.

Um, all those immigrants will be working and paying into Social Security, which to me is a GREAT thing!

Since then, local residents have provided a steady supply of complaints. Rossana Pilar Mitchell, a family lawyer in Chino Hills (the next town over from Rowland Heights) has led a grassroots campaign against maternity hotels. She first became aware of birth tourism in 2012, after an overstressed septic tank overflowed in a Chino Hills development. Sewage poured out onto neighbors' lawns. As many as 30 pregnant Chinese women were housed in the hilltop single-family home. Soon after, Mitchell founded Not In Chino Hills, which sends tips to authorities and organizes protests outside suspected hotels.

Anonymous wrote:I have noticed that many citizens of other nations go to Saipan or Guam to give birth these days.

Huh. Maybe they want their kids to grow up and contribute to the Guam and Saipan economies or maybe go to the great universities of those islands. And it's only two hours by plane from shanghai! Go figure

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its a terrible practice. If a child is born on US soil and parents have legitimate connection to US (is living here long term on work visas or green card) then a mechanism can e created to apply for citizenship. Fly in, give birth, fly out... No.

So what? What's wrong with immigrants?

Too many immigrants increases the supply of workers and reduces wages for existing US citizens. Increases profits for ceos. We have had controlled immigration for most of the last 150 years. We have had abundant natural resources during that time . It has gone out of control in last 20 since 1990 immigration act.

Now if you are a democrat that idea will be hard to understand because your brain will be conditioned to scream racist , preventing any rational thought.

Um, all those immigrants will be working and paying into Social Security, which to me is a GREAT thing!

Which trumps non existent wage growth??
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I have noticed that many citizens of other nations go to Saipan or Guam to give birth these days.

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Anonymous wrote:If born on American soil. Yes. Americans.

Yes. Why would this upset anyone?

Espionage, for one thing. You can bet the PLA now has or will soon have operatives who are U.S. Citizens.

Oh, yes, baby spies. Very dangerous. Which is better, Huggies or Pampers? Report back immediately.

Sorry, whatever humor was attempted here did not translate. Espionage is serious business, and takes many forms including economic, corporate, and national security. China has been a master of stealing U.S. technology, costing U.S. businesses billions. Very dangerous, indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:The mod should change the title of this thread. OP was really asking birthright citizenship but singled out Chinese for some reasons (racism against Chinese?).

Birthright citizenship is wrong not matter what race

But the reality is it is the Chinese that abuse it the most. There are tourism operators targeting this

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/welcome-to-maternity-hotel-california-20150819

The title of this post is racist. The US constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, but the OP thinks Chinese should be excluded from it. If the title was using words like Muslim, you bet the mod would delete or lock the thread.

Business is not "forced to" do anything. People, with or without ethics, run business. They are humans. They can be good or bad, and their businesses can be good or bad. I employ house cleaners from a service that provides promotional opportunity, health insurance, and retirement. If this company chooses to provide these benefits, others can. If morally repugnant Trump truly cared about employing Americans first, he could. He's rich. He's not building anything from scratch, where money may be too tight for awhile to do the "right thing."

A house cleaner is working for a household. A business must be able to compete or it will not make money. If it does not make money, it goes out of business. If it goes out of business, people lose their jobs. If people lose their jobs, benefits don't help.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is clear indication of how liberal elites that post here are out of touch with the rest of the country

No one can argue with people that don't care about the negative impacts to low skilled labor

this is why democrats lost the presidency. He house and the senate and why democrats are lead by pelosi from San Fran and shumer from new york

If I had a dollar for every reason that was "the reason" Democrats lost the election I'd be living in Trump Tower trolling Twitter. I assure you, the fact that some Democrats don't care about Chinese babies being born in the US is not even in the top 100 reasons that the Democrats lost.

Why is it that you are only concerned about birth tourism involving Chinese? Surely you are aware that nationals of many other countries do it as well?

Trump campaigned on populism anti immigration. all the other republican candidates wanted to increase immigration. Hillary wanted to triple h1b program. Obama has quadrupled the OPT program

I know you prefer to just yell racist but a lot of people voted for trump in spite of his racist comments

We need to out American workers first in immigration reform

Have you asked Trump why he employs foreign workers on visas at his properties, instead of Americans?

We have discussed this before We know he does this. Business is forced to take advantage of any loophole given by the government. He knows this. The laws need to be changed to stop the subsidies for corporations and to help American workers. He knows this too and has said this many times


It was Hillary and pelosi that push for keeping the h1b laws and increasing immigrating.

Business is not "forced to" do anything. People, with or without ethics, run business. They are humans. They can be good or bad, and their businesses can be good or bad. I employ house cleaners from a service that provides promotional opportunity, health insurance, and retirement. If this company chooses to provide these benefits, others can. If morally repugnant Trump truly cared about employing Americans first, he could. He's rich. He's not building anything from scratch, where money may be too tight for awhile to do the "right thing."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If born on American soil. Yes. Americans.

Yes. Why would this upset anyone?

Espionage, for one thing. You can bet the PLA now has or will soon have operatives who are U.S. Citizens.

Oh, yes, baby spies. Very dangerous. Which is better, Huggies or Pampers? Report back immediately.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its a terrible practice. If a child is born on US soil and parents have legitimate connection to US (is living here long term on work visas or green card) then a mechanism can e created to apply for citizenship. Fly in, give birth, fly out... No.

So what? What's wrong with immigrants?

Too many immigrants increases the supply of workers and reduces wages for existing US citizens. Increases profits for ceos. We have had controlled immigration for most of the last 150 years. We have had abundant natural resources during that time . It has gone out of control in last 20 since 1990 immigration act.

Now if you are a democrat that idea will be hard to understand because your brain will be conditioned to scream racist , preventing any rational thought.

Um, all those immigrants will be working and paying into Social Security, which to me is a GREAT thing!