Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
$70 k in debt is somewhat understandable given that it includes SL and she's a single mom. Many in the site cite SL/debt at $150k or higher.
She's raising a child and paying to live in an expensive area for goodness sake!
Once you're married why can't what she pays in rent go towards her debts? Why should her child have to sacrifice her education? Not all FX schools are good.
So you are suggesting that OP covers all living expenses and his fiancé uses what she pays in rent towards her debt and rest of her money towards her DD's private school tuition?
That doesn't sound very fair to OP. At the same time, it isn't uncommon for the male to support the entire family. Blended families complicate matters. I'm a SAHM of 3 kids but they are our biological kids. When we got married, DH paid for all living expenses and I put ALL of my income towards my student loans. We considered it our debt to pay off since everything was joint and family money.
Reread your 2nd paragraph.
Why was that scenario okay for you and fair for your DH but not OP.
Once they marry their money and bills we become joint as well. If he's so concerned about her debt and retirement, he should cover the expenses and let her pay things down. Or just not marry her. Because joining lives is what marriage is all about.
As one pp said, we never know what tomorrow will bring. What if he gets ill or laid off for some reason and she has to take up the slack? Thats marriage! One day you may have to work for the same reason. And it will be possible because you worked as a team beforehand.
Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
$70 k in debt is somewhat understandable given that it includes SL and she's a single mom. Many in the site cite SL/debt at $150k or higher.
She's raising a child and paying to live in an expensive area for goodness sake!
Once you're married why can't what she pays in rent go towards her debts? Why should her child have to sacrifice her education? Not all FX schools are good.
So you are suggesting that OP covers all living expenses and his fiancé uses what she pays in rent towards her debt and rest of her money towards her DD's private school tuition?
That doesn't sound very fair to OP. At the same time, it isn't uncommon for the male to support the entire family. Blended families complicate matters. I'm a SAHM of 3 kids but they are our biological kids. When we got married, DH paid for all living expenses and I put ALL of my income towards my student loans. We considered it our debt to pay off since everything was joint and family money.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
$70 k in debt is somewhat understandable given that it includes SL and she's a single mom. Many in the site cite SL/debt at $150k or higher.
She's raising a child and paying to live in an expensive area for goodness sake!
Once you're married why can't what she pays in rent go towards her debts? Why should her child have to sacrifice her education? Not all FX schools are good.
Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
She sounds like a winner. Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
I guess what I don't understand is how these conversations go when you talk to her about money, budgets, debt and retirement. What does she say in response to these concerns? What is her plan?
Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for continuing discussion.
Between credit card debt and student loans, she owes 70k. Right now she pays minimal amount on CC, nothing on student loans.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the insights, they are appreciated, even the ones that chewed me out.
What is resonating most for me is, I don't want my kids to feel like less-than, that they are going to a lesser school, esp when I pay a premium to live in a neighborhood with excellent, well-regarded schools.
It also bothers me that much of her income - that should go towards our long-term goals like retirement and college for the kids - will be diverted for that purpose, and I will end up paying a disproportionate amount for the bills so she can do that.
You seem very focused on her income versus your income. Be a team. Not everything is going to be equal with your finances. You're going to pay for things that you don't want to and vice versa. You could get sick and have to retire early and she could end up supporting you.
You need to work on being a team and not viewing things as your money or hers. You also need to show her the numbers of how much will be spent on this school and why it is a problem for your budget. Don't make it about your money versus hers. The issue is that you're in this together and the school isn't something you can afford.
I agree with this.
OP, if your children are in a good school system they should not feel less than simply because her child is going private. Fairfax is a great system! You and your children should also understand that the child is able to go private because of the contribution her father is making.
And yeah, the crux of it all seems to be that "her" money is being diverted towards private and that your money will allow that to happen. As the pp said, stop thinking in terms of her money vs. yours. If you want to marry her, you need to go ALL IN and stop with the "50/50" stuff.
On the other hand, if that is going to be a real issue for you, reconsider. the money thing breaks up marriages like nothing else. Then you'll be paying for a costly divorce and have your family torn apart.
Except that's not really true. As a result of the private school there will be less money available for OP's children for college (presuming that OP and new DW will be contributing equally to the college funds for all of the children).
Why? If Fiancee and her ex are paying for private--as they are currently doing, what has that to do with his children's college fund? OP sounds like a miser who will make sure HER money only goes to HER kid's college fund while HIS goes to his kids.
He doesn't want his children feeling less than but he also shouldn't want step child's life to become less because Mommy married miser.
OP would be ready to KILL if his kids were in private--with his help--and their mother said "No more! Now that I'm married, DH wants me to put more money towards our marital home."
He sounds like a selfish butthole.
Oh hello fiancee.
Female here, and I'm with OP. Don't marry her. She seems selfish and it does sound like she will be taking from your kids to give her kid what she can't afford. Given her financial situation, her plan is ridiculous.
I repeat - DO NOT MARRY HER. There are plenty of nice women in DC who have their shit together. Of course, there are plenty of those who also do not, and it sounds like you have one of them.
The typical jealous woman who hates the idea of a female being provided for. You don't have the looks, body and personality to attract a man to take care of you so begrudge the woman who does. You had to work hard and struggle so every woman should huh?
Ha. I married a hot trust fund baby, and I have the body of a 22 year old. You don't know me at all.
Yeah. And I'm Melania Trump.
But for some reason I have a problem with another woman marrying semi-ok---Said no trophy wife ever.