Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Of course, as a parent of two children in a private school, I would feel terrible if my child were expelled. But, if you read my PP, I stated that the explusions that I was aware of (two of them) the offenders were *repeat* offenders who had already received extremely stern reprimands about the consequences of their behavior. And, yes, I do think that expulsion will teach the child a lesson. I don't think that expulsion is a cop-out, especially if the child (and family) have been in discussions with the school about formerly unacceptable behavior.
I believe that attending a private school is a privilege, and that if one abuses that privilege, that it can be rightfully taken away.
you opened your post with this:
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students.
so, you opened by saying that this is the key that a school must have to manage adequately sexting and bullying.
also, for the record, public schools CAN expel students.
And your point is what? I have never heard of a public school that expelled a student--have you? So, even if in theory it is possible, I have never heard of it first or second hand actually done in practice. I believe that the threat of expulsion is a fair means of a school asserting its right to ensure that students do not become repeated victims of sexting and online bullying.
Anonymous wrote:MCPS has a very strong curriculum and is doing well. In terms of academics private school is the same, teachers are the same. The only difference really is in all the "fluff". The arts has much more focus, PE and althetics has more focus and perhaps the amenities is much nicer.
It really depends on how much money you are looking to spend and if it's really worth it to you.
Personally, I didn't think it was worth the money. I took my kids out of private and they are doing just fine in public.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids switched from public to private this year and all I can say is the first couple of weeks in private are nothing like DCPS. They had 23 kids with a teacher plus aide in public, including a few kids who needed a lot of special help, they now have 12 kids and 2 full time teachers. They have PE plus recess every day now. They have several other fun specials that they tell us about every day as soon as we pick them up. But mostly they already feel special there, the teachers are so welcoming and warm which means a lot for young elementary kids. It's a huge financial commitment but I'm thrilled with the change.
Other than the class size, everything you describe is happening in my kindergartners public school.
This is such a dumb observation. "Other than class size?!" That's the whole point, the class size is what is driving the joy and warmth in a private K. It's like saying other than missing an engine and being rusty, this 20 year old Toyota is the same as a 2016 bmw.
Disagree. I think the below, as you wrote so you clearly agree, are also very important. There are 20 kids in my K'ers class - joy and warmth are about the teacher and the combo of kids, not size alone.
They have PE plus recess every day now. They have several other fun specials that they tell us about every day as soon as we pick them up. But mostly they already feel special there, the teachers are so welcoming and warm which means a lot for young elementary kids.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Of course, as a parent of two children in a private school, I would feel terrible if my child were expelled. But, if you read my PP, I stated that the explusions that I was aware of (two of them) the offenders were *repeat* offenders who had already received extremely stern reprimands about the consequences of their behavior. And, yes, I do think that expulsion will teach the child a lesson. I don't think that expulsion is a cop-out, especially if the child (and family) have been in discussions with the school about formerly unacceptable behavior.
I believe that attending a private school is a privilege, and that if one abuses that privilege, that it can be rightfully taken away.
you opened your post with this:
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students.
so, you opened by saying that this is the key that a school must have to manage adequately sexting and bullying.
also, for the record, public schools CAN expel students.
And your point is what? I have never heard of a public school that expelled a student--have you? So, even if in theory it is possible, I have never heard of it first or second hand actually done in practice. I believe that the threat of expulsion is a fair means of a school asserting its right to ensure that students do not become repeated victims of sexting and online bullying.
The DC public schools expulsion rate is .13%
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids switched from public to private this year and all I can say is the first couple of weeks in private are nothing like DCPS. They had 23 kids with a teacher plus aide in public, including a few kids who needed a lot of special help, they now have 12 kids and 2 full time teachers. They have PE plus recess every day now. They have several other fun specials that they tell us about every day as soon as we pick them up. But mostly they already feel special there, the teachers are so welcoming and warm which means a lot for young elementary kids. It's a huge financial commitment but I'm thrilled with the change.
Other than the class size, everything you describe is happening in my kindergartners public school.
This is such a dumb observation. "Other than class size?!" That's the whole point, the class size is what is driving the joy and warmth in a private K. It's like saying other than missing an engine and being rusty, this 20 year old Toyota is the same as a 2016 bmw.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Of course, as a parent of two children in a private school, I would feel terrible if my child were expelled. But, if you read my PP, I stated that the explusions that I was aware of (two of them) the offenders were *repeat* offenders who had already received extremely stern reprimands about the consequences of their behavior. And, yes, I do think that expulsion will teach the child a lesson. I don't think that expulsion is a cop-out, especially if the child (and family) have been in discussions with the school about formerly unacceptable behavior.
I believe that attending a private school is a privilege, and that if one abuses that privilege, that it can be rightfully taken away.
you opened your post with this:
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students.
so, you opened by saying that this is the key that a school must have to manage adequately sexting and bullying.
also, for the record, public schools CAN expel students.
And your point is what? I have never heard of a public school that expelled a student--have you? So, even if in theory it is possible, I have never heard of it first or second hand actually done in practice. I believe that the threat of expulsion is a fair means of a school asserting its right to ensure that students do not become repeated victims of sexting and online bullying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids switched from public to private this year and all I can say is the first couple of weeks in private are nothing like DCPS. They had 23 kids with a teacher plus aide in public, including a few kids who needed a lot of special help, they now have 12 kids and 2 full time teachers. They have PE plus recess every day now. They have several other fun specials that they tell us about every day as soon as we pick them up. But mostly they already feel special there, the teachers are so welcoming and warm which means a lot for young elementary kids. It's a huge financial commitment but I'm thrilled with the change.
Other than the class size, everything you describe is happening in my kindergartners public school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Of course, as a parent of two children in a private school, I would feel terrible if my child were expelled. But, if you read my PP, I stated that the explusions that I was aware of (two of them) the offenders were *repeat* offenders who had already received extremely stern reprimands about the consequences of their behavior. And, yes, I do think that expulsion will teach the child a lesson. I don't think that expulsion is a cop-out, especially if the child (and family) have been in discussions with the school about formerly unacceptable behavior.
I believe that attending a private school is a privilege, and that if one abuses that privilege, that it can be rightfully taken away.
you opened your post with this:
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students.
so, you opened by saying that this is the key that a school must have to manage adequately sexting and bullying.
also, for the record, public schools CAN expel students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Of course, as a parent of two children in a private school, I would feel terrible if my child were expelled. But, if you read my PP, I stated that the explusions that I was aware of (two of them) the offenders were *repeat* offenders who had already received extremely stern reprimands about the consequences of their behavior. And, yes, I do think that expulsion will teach the child a lesson. I don't think that expulsion is a cop-out, especially if the child (and family) have been in discussions with the school about formerly unacceptable behavior.
I believe that attending a private school is a privilege, and that if one abuses that privilege, that it can be rightfully taken away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
i am a parent to one child in private school and one child in public (DC charter) school.
every parent likes to think that their child would NEVER be the one initiating bullying or sexting. but let me ask you this, PP - if you were in a private school, and your child was the initiator or a bullying or sexting incident, how would you like it if your child was expelled from school? do you think that will "teach" your child a lesson? the real question is, what would YOU do about it?
running to expulsion is a cop-out, and i think that this is what is scary about private schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.
As the kids get older (middle school), one thing that I find is that at larger public schools, dealing with the fallout of sext-ing and online bullying is much, much more difficult to control because you can't expel students. Although you will definitely find both sexting and online bullying in both public and private schools, in my observation with friends who have children at both, private schools are much more likely to come down hard on students who are caught abusing online privileges. There are multiple parent meetings, class assemblies, time taken out of classes to talk about this, and even (in a couple of cases) expulsion for repeat offenders. The parents with kids at Deal, OTOH, are really struggling with this mostly on their own. The school does acknowledge it, but really on a level that is not even remotely close to what I have seen at private schools. I'm not saying that private schools are dealing with this growing problem perfectly, but I definitely get the sense that they are trying a lot harder to send the message to students that such behavior is not to be tolerated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
One more thing, and you'll call me old-fashioned for this one. I see kids waiting for the public school bus as I drive my DS to his private. They're dressed like slobs, hair is overgrown, they look a mess. Kids at our school are presented nicely, they learn how to speak in front of groups that include classmates, parents and teachers. Appearances and verbal presentations matter. Private schools teach it, public doesn't.
As a parent whose kids have both attended public and private schools, I need to point out that both schools taught character. For example, both had anti-bullying curricula and public speaking (if you want to include public speaking as "character", but it sounds like you're driving at a different sort of issue here). Yet there were bullies and bad speakers at both places, which isn't really surprising. Ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to teach character. I would never rely on a school to do it for me.