Anonymous wrote:Meh, I've seen and been victim to multiple black colleagues, generally secretaries, making racial and religious slurs to whites and people who are Muslim and none were fired or even reprimanded to my knowledge.

I've seen and had my flowers be victim to bees pollinating colorful flowers while ignoring duller ones.

Do you have an on topic post to share?

Can the tone police PP go to hell? (and yes, you are behind all the tone policing posts, Ms. Sock Puppet).

This site is incredibly hostile. PP's post calling out the so-called attorney's bullshit is tame in comparison to most flaming here. Yet, I never see the tone policing that has suddenly popped up in response to the black PP's post.

I find it interesting that in response to PP correctly calling out a fibber, his/her "civility" is being policed by a rude, uncivil jerk. How very white of you (and don't bother responding that you're half-Mongolian and half-Ugandan - no one believes you).

I guess him/her getting a white person fired struck a nerve, huh? Draw us a diagram and show us where it hurts.

Civil discussion is just that. If you know of an example that broadens the discussion, bring it up. It doesn't mean everyone before you was a liar, stupid, insincere, incoherent, or an embarrassment. It means you have more to add to the discussion.

Anonymous wrote: @ the turn the thread had taken.

I don't know about Miss Manners upthread, but I think the moral here is:

When trying to look down on others with a "legal opinion" rendered on the internet, be careful you don't get embarrassed by people who know better.

Being civil isn't about Miss Manners.

Meh, I've seen and been victim to multiple black colleagues, generally secretaries, making racial and religious slurs to whites and people who are Muslim and none were fired or even reprimanded to my knowledge.

@ the turn the thread had taken.

I don't know about Miss Manners upthread, but I think the moral here is:

When trying to look down on others with a "legal opinion" rendered on the internet, be careful you don't get embarrassed by people who know better.

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Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?



You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Regardless of the insensitivity or inappropriateness of your former work colleague, you might want to consider how your personality and conversations with others might affect your own employment over the long haul.

NP. You tried to pull the "trust me, I'm a lawyer" card and PP called you out. Deal with it and stop trying to take swipes that have nothing to do with the misinformation you tried to spread.

Perhaps you could express your thoughts this way:

"I disagree, here's why..."

Your style of rhetoric is so incredibly combative that it's hard to appreciate your point amidst your calling the previous poster a liar, stupid, etc. You disagree. That is all. Try to build on a discussion instead of turning it into a kickboxing match.

Um, NP means "new poster," as in not the original poster who called you out. It is pretty weak though that you are trying to lecture on delivery as if you're someone's parent. When did you get fired over your confederate flag (assuming you're not the salty lawyer)?

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Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?



You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Regardless of the insensitivity or inappropriateness of your former work colleague, you might want to consider how your personality and conversations with others might affect your own employment over the long haul.

NP. You tried to pull the "trust me, I'm a lawyer" card and PP called you out. Deal with it and stop trying to take swipes that have nothing to do with the misinformation you tried to spread.

Perhaps you could express your thoughts this way:

"I disagree, here's why..."

Your style of rhetoric is so incredibly combative that it's hard to appreciate your point amidst your calling the previous poster a liar, stupid, etc. You disagree. That is all. Try to build on a discussion instead of turning it into a kickboxing match.

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Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?

You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Federal lawyer here again. Thank you for the example of an exception. It is useless to speak in generalities although an Internet forum is not the place for nuanced advice.

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Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?



You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Regardless of the insensitivity or inappropriateness of your former work colleague, you might want to consider how your personality and conversations with others might affect your own employment over the long haul.

NP. You tried to pull the "trust me, I'm a lawyer" card and PP called you out. Deal with it and stop trying to take swipes that have nothing to do with the misinformation you tried to spread.

PP here. Not a lawyer. Was a new poster, too.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?



You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Regardless of the insensitivity or inappropriateness of your former work colleague, you might want to consider how your personality and conversations with others might affect your own employment over the long haul.

NP. You tried to pull the "trust me, I'm a lawyer" card and PP called you out. Deal with it and stop trying to take swipes that have nothing to do with the misinformation you tried to spread.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?



You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Regardless of the insensitivity or inappropriateness of your former work colleague, you might want to consider how your personality and conversations with others might affect your own employment over the long haul.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

You really think I care about the mechanics of how this goon ended up unemployed?

You said people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag and I know from real life experience that you are 100% wrong. Period.

Anonymous wrote:The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.

Federal government lawyer here who is stupid or a liar or both according to you.

In the federal government, firing is known as removal. In order to remove a federal employee, there has to a written proposal to remove, an opportunity to respond, and a written decision on the proposal to remove. This procedure is known as "due process," a right which federal employees have whether or not a hostile work environment exists, and which takes considerable time. The only exception would be a probationary employee or perhaps a federal contractor. Was this coworker one of those? If not, I suspect you are stupid, a liar, or both.

The lawyer up thread who claims people can't be fired for flying the confederate flag at work is either stupid or a liar or both.

I work at the SEC and got a coworker fired just last year over this. He had the confederate flag as a screensaver on his computer. Some junior attorneys talking about it clued me in, so I went straight to a management.

They didn't ask him to take it down. They outright fired him. You aren't entitled to warnings when creating a hostile workplace.

I am black and will not tolerate nonsense on my watch. You can take your debate whether the confederate flag is about Southern pride or racism to the unemployment line.