Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 16:08     Subject: Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I teach algebra to 7th graders. It is immediately apparent who was "prepped" to make the cut, and who has the ability to think beyond. The poor prepped kids work their tails off to keep up. Half do, half don't. The ones who do are usually really good memorizers, but not necessarily critical thinkers.

I try to push forward at the same pace I would teach a class of all top students (which is what 7th grade algebra should be) but some years I cut out a bunch of extensions because a good portion of the class can't keep up with the basics


I'm not sure the IAAT and pass advanced are that hard to accomplish, even for kids who aren't ready for algebra. DC didn't prep for the IAAT and scored in the 98th percentile, so it's not necessarily a difference between prepped and not prepped. I don't think DC belongs in algebra next year. I know DC will think meeting the benchmarks means DC will take algebra next year, but at this point my answer is no.


But it is hard for some kids. I have 7th graders this year who told me all about how they studied for weeks before the IAAT. (I have other 7th graders who scored in the 70's on the test and still were allowed to take algebra, but that's a whole 'nother complaint for another day).
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 15:59     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
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I can't even with this race stuff. I hope you are a troll OP.


I hope so too!
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 15:58     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
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I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When you kid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

This seems like such an awesome summation your personality, you should add it to your signature line.

Wow, are we in the 1950s?


Let's be honest. Everyone wants their kid to marry someone who is just as successful.


I care if my kid marries somebody kind and smart. He can be unemployed or work for free for all I care. I have my kid covered financially and her kids too.

So not even your grandkids will need to work? What's a Rockefeller doing on a public school chat board?
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 15:44     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid


I can't even with this race stuff. I hope you are a troll OP.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 15:22     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When you kid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

This seems like such an awesome summation your personality, you should add it to your signature line.

Wow, are we in the 1950s?


Let's be honest. Everyone wants their kid to marry someone who is just as successful.


I care if my kid marries somebody kind and smart. He can be unemployed or work for free for all I care. I have my kid covered financially and her kids too.

So not even your grandkids will need to work? What's a Rockefeller doing on a public school chat board?
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 14:48     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When you kid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

This seems like such an awesome summation your personality, you should add it to your signature line.

Wow, are we in the 1950s?


Let's be honest. Everyone wants their kid to marry someone who is just as successful.


I care if my kid marries somebody kind and smart. He can be unemployed or work for free for all I care. I have my kid covered financially and her kids too.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 14:42     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I didn't need to prep to get good scores. I prepped to get great scores and admitted to schools with low acceptance rates. When you kid gets into an Ivy for undergrad and grad school and marries someone who does the same. Call me.

This seems like such an awesome summation your personality, you should add it to your signature line.

Wow, are we in the 1950s?


Let's be honest. Everyone wants their kid to marry someone who is just as successful.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 13:29     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
its not that its the increase of remedial coursework from all these kids who only know how to study for a test and don't belong in these programs
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 13:12     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:can we quit being anonymous on this stuff and go to TJ and talk about all this crap

You can stop being anonymous anytime you want. Don't wait for us. Then you can go down to TJ and shock them with the news that there are students in their midst who studied for the IAAT.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 13:02     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
can we quit being anonymous on this stuff and go to TJ and talk about all this crap
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 12:16     Subject: Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I teach algebra to 7th graders. It is immediately apparent who was "prepped" to make the cut, and who has the ability to think beyond. The poor prepped kids work their tails off to keep up. Half do, half don't. The ones who do are usually really good memorizers, but not necessarily critical thinkers.

I try to push forward at the same pace I would teach a class of all top students (which is what 7th grade algebra should be) but some years I cut out a bunch of extensions because a good portion of the class can't keep up with the basics


I thought getting into 7th grade algebra was from sols and Iowa testing? People aren't prepping for that are they? I think kids are struggling in algebra because it's 2 years ahead and probably really hard. Not all aap kids do algebra in seventh - right?


People are definitely prepping for the IAAT.I know people that did this.


Yes, for sure. My 6th grader told me that a few kids were complaining that they were going to be required to do three hours per day of math over the entire 2-week Christmas break, in addition to getting together weekly with other kids (arranged by the parents) and taught by one of the dads who is a math whiz.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 12:02     Subject: Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:I teach algebra to 7th graders. It is immediately apparent who was "prepped" to make the cut, and who has the ability to think beyond. The poor prepped kids work their tails off to keep up. Half do, half don't. The ones who do are usually really good memorizers, but not necessarily critical thinkers.

I try to push forward at the same pace I would teach a class of all top students (which is what 7th grade algebra should be) but some years I cut out a bunch of extensions because a good portion of the class can't keep up with the basics


The same thing happens at TJ, also. Kids are prepped to get in, but then some struggle and need tutors and outside help to keep up. There are kids there who can't participate in after school activities because they need to meet with tutors or they simply need every after school minute to work on academics because they find the work so challenging.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 11:28     Subject: Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:I teach algebra to 7th graders. It is immediately apparent who was "prepped" to make the cut, and who has the ability to think beyond. The poor prepped kids work their tails off to keep up. Half do, half don't. The ones who do are usually really good memorizers, but not necessarily critical thinkers.

I try to push forward at the same pace I would teach a class of all top students (which is what 7th grade algebra should be) but some years I cut out a bunch of extensions because a good portion of the class can't keep up with the basics


I'm not sure the IAAT and pass advanced are that hard to accomplish, even for kids who aren't ready for algebra. DC didn't prep for the IAAT and scored in the 98th percentile, so it's not necessarily a difference between prepped and not prepped. I don't think DC belongs in algebra next year. I know DC will think meeting the benchmarks means DC will take algebra next year, but at this point my answer is no.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 08:42     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Prep is a Subjective term in different cultures and that's where all these difference of opinion comes from.

Is it OK to tell to your kid that today there will be an exam in the school and so please take extra precaution that your kid has good night sleep etc..
OR
Teachers in the school make the kids feel comfortable by having them solve some examples which may be similar kind of question in the actual tests.(I came to know through my Kid that teacher made them go through sample questions of how the exam will look like)

IF you think neither of the above are called Prep then please stop wasting your time trying to be clinical in your response to the OP. For us Asians Prep is something like taking one step further and have them go through the different ways in which you could interpret the examples. I asked her why did u pick this response instead of that and made her reason every choice. And I just used Google to get sample questions!!
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 06:32     Subject: Re:Why should I feel guilty that I prepped my kid
Anonymous wrote:I have a question re: prepping. My child was in pool with test scores to the center but I put together a package of work samples, pictures, certifications and recommendation letter. Is that considered prepping? Didn't her file have an advantage because I did all that? Isn't that prepping?


I think the term is limited to just practicing for the test, often with commercially produced prep materials.
What you did probably mattered very little, esp. if the GBRS was good.