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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see anyone beyond the age of 3-4 with poop on their hands after wiping. Some of you ladies need to get remedial wiping lessons if you end up with poop or pee hands after using the bathroom.

You are pretty dumb if you think all germs are contained by the toilet paper. Just because you don't have shit on your hands doesn't mean you don't have shit on your hands.

Are you using one sheet of toilet paper that is soaked through? -- In any event, when you flush, you get shit everywhere. When you touch the sink handles you are touching one of the dirtiest things in any bathroom.

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Do people normally wash before touching the toilet handle? Literally particles of feces shoot out of the toilet every time it is flushed. It isn't very clean and you should wash after.

Common knowledge, huh? I am amazed people are not aware of the fact that their whole bodies are exposed. Where you wash your hands is irrelevant.

This might bring up another issue, but doesn't everyone put the lid down before flushing?

I thought about this throughout the whole thread. Every time the toilet is flushed micro particles of urine, feces and toilet water shoot up in the air and land on everything nearby. I black light in a bathroom is a scary thing.

OP here. Wow, I had no idea that this would turn into a 7 page thread. Thanks for your responses. I know it comes off as ridiculous to some people, but it is a pet peeve of mine and is really gross to me. She doesn't always go straight to the kitchen sink either. She may stop into DS's playroom or pick up a few picture frames to look at the photos on the way to the kitchen. She doesn't have OCD or any other issues with cleanliness. Far from it, actually. She will stay here for 4 days and not shower once because she doesn't want to have to redo her hair.

I know I should count my blessings if this is my only issue with MIL (it's not, but it's one of the grossest).. And I really don't care if it makes me seem crazy. There is really no reason why she can't wash her hands in the bathroom.

I like the suggestion to be busy at the kitchen sink when she comes back from the bathroom--but I've tried that. She'll wait behind me while I finish. When I suggest she go wash her hands in the bathroom while I finish up at the sink she just asks if she can slide in real quick.

I foresee lots of wine in my future this week...

Thanks for letting me vent!

I wash my hands *before*going to the bathroom because I work in a lab with plenty of chemicals/germs and I don't want to contaminate my private parts.

I wash hands after because I am afraid someone might be watching but I always wondered what the point if that is since the moment I touch the door it is all over.

Yeah, I'm with the CDC and WHO and countless other medical experts in this one...not to mention Daniel Tiger: wash your damn hands immediately after going to the bathroom.

That's all.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, yes. Food producers are allowed a certain % of rat fecal matter or whatever in our food.

I hope nobody will starve herself after this LOL

Don't forget insect parts. Fecal matter and insect parts are ALLOWED in our food.

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Anonymous wrote:What's truly not OK is that OP has asked her to abide by the rules/customs of the house, and MIL won't do it.

I don't "agree" with some of my MIL's house rules/customs, but I respect and follow them in her home.

LOL. No, you don't need to follow rules from crazy people.

No, YOU people are crazy if you think that TOUCHING A DOORKNOB to exit the bathroom, then TOUCHING THE FAUCET to turn on the water at the *kitchen sink* isn't spreading germs. If your "logic" is, "Well, I don't get any poop or pee on my hands when I go to the bathroom," then...WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?

Wash your freaking hands in the bathroom after you go to the bathroom. If you don't do that, you are really gross. And OP is right to think her MIL is being gross...and rude.

You can't stop germs from spreading. Deal with it. You can stunt proliferation, but PPs are correct: You can never get away from fecal matter. Try not to dwell on it

I agree that MIL could be more agreeable, because her hostess is batshit crazy and deserves some empathy.

If this is your logic, then answer the question: WHY WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL?

You don't wash your hands to prevent yourself from spreading germs around on other surfaces; you wash your hands so (as an example) when you rub your eyes you don't introduce a cold virus. Bacteria & viruses are everywhere; what matters is not introducing them internally. Washing your hands after using the bathroom isn't as important as washing hands before you touch your eyes/nose/mouth, when you're preparing food (especially food that won't be cooked), before operating on someone or delivering their baby, etc.

Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see anyone beyond the age of 3-4 with poop on their hands after wiping. Some of you ladies need to get remedial wiping lessons if you end up with poop or pee hands after using the bathroom.

You are pretty dumb if you think all germs are contained by the toilet paper. Just because you don't have shit on your hands doesn't mean you don't have shit on your hands.

Anonymous wrote:The next few times she goes into use the bathroom get busy in the kitchen sink with something- peel celery or something...- when she comes out of powder room and goes to the kitchen sink just say you need the sink now, please use the one in the bathroom. Try to create a new habit for her.

This!!!

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Do people normally wash before touching the toilet handle? Literally particles of feces shoot out of the toilet every time it is flushed. It isn't very clean and you should wash after.

Common knowledge, huh? I am amazed people are not aware of the fact that their whole bodies are exposed. Where you wash your hands is irrelevant.

This might bring up another issue, but doesn't everyone put the lid down before flushing?

The next few times she goes into use the bathroom get busy in the kitchen sink with something- peel celery or something...- when she comes out of powder room and goes to the kitchen sink just say you need the sink now, please use the one in the bathroom. Try to create a new habit for her.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that it is gross. So, she touches toilet handle, door knob etc... with dirty hands. That would be enough for me to go behind her with lysol wipes every single time she used the bathroom.

Do people normally wash before touching the toilet handle? Literally particles of feces shoot out of the toilet every time it is flushed. It isn't very clean and you should wash after.

+1

Common knowledge, huh? I am amazed people are not aware of the fact that their whole bodies are exposed. Where you wash your hands is irrelevant.

I have yet to see anyone beyond the age of 3-4 with poop on their hands after wiping. Some of you ladies need to get remedial wiping lessons if you end up with poop or pee hands after using the bathroom.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that it is gross. So, she touches toilet handle, door knob etc... with dirty hands. That would be enough for me to go behind her with lysol wipes every single time she used the bathroom.

Do people normally wash before touching the toilet handle? Literally particles of feces shoot out of the toilet every time it is flushed. It isn't very clean and you should wash after.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:You cannot wash your hands over my dishes, sponge, scrubber, etc with ass-hands. No way!

That sponge is already far dirtier than the inside of any toilet.

Not if you wash it after every use, wring it dry, and put it on a clean plate/holder, as you should

Unless you are running it through the dishwasher after every use, yes it its. "Washing and wringing dry" will not kill the bacteria which grows deep in the sponge. Sponges are among the most germy and disgusting things in any home.