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Anonymous wrote:She may not be Anorexic, but she is more than likely underweight, which is not healthy.

That's debatable. Sever studies indicate underweight people live longer than average sized.

You have it backwards...most studies show that Overweight people live longer than normal people.

Naah. Overwhelmingly low caloric intake is associated with longevity. However, where this gets messed up is when the person is ill and the nutrition declines- having some weight improves their longevity.

Have you ever met an actual anorexic person? I have. She does not look anorexic.

NP, I actually have met many - was a somewhat serious dancer. Newsflash: they do not all "look" like the extreme stereotype. Given her significant weight loss, it is seems likely that she has (at least somewhat) new, extremely restrictive eating habits. And once you add in possible control issues and body dysmorphia, not to mention the pressure she is under, the line between "extremely restrictive" and anorexia becomes rather blurred.

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Anonymous wrote:Such sisterhood on this thread.

There actually is and it's from the women who can actually see that this woman is struggling with an eating disorder and setting a terrible example for all other women.

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Anonymous wrote:15% body fat in a man is fine, 15% in a woman is borderline detrimental. Woman naturally have /require more fat than men.

+1. I have an athletic build and hover around 12-13% body fat naturally. I look way too thin/lean out of my clothes and am bigger than Kate Middleton (shorter but wider).

She's definitely restricting her food intake very drastically. I don't get this. She has everything, and still she finds ways to torture herself.

15% body fat in a man is fine, 15% in a woman is borderline detrimental. Woman naturally have /require more fat than men.

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

The recommended range of body fat for woman that are athletes is ~ 15-25%. Kate is not an athlete or muscular she is just skinny, and for non athletes the normal range of fat is ~ 25-30%. I have no idea where you got the 15% is not unhealthy from, especially in someone that is not athletic, considering that below ~13% woman start to have medical complications. Low 20's is more what someone should aim for unless they are training/require it for other reasons.

This page has some good information on it. http://www.builtlean.com/2010/08/03/ideal-body-fat-percentage-chart/

"A research paper by Gallagher et. al. in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) came to the conclusion that certain low body fat ranges are “underfat”, which implies “unhealthy”. According to this research paper, men who are between 20-40 years old with under 8% body fat are considered “underfat”, whereas a “healthy” range is described as between 8-19%. For women in this same age group, any level under 21% is “underfat” and 21-33% is considered “healthy”."


I checked several sources they all recommend somewhere in the range of 20-30% for a healthy woman, not the 15 you suggested. The perpetuation of unhealthy stereotypes continues.

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

I was pointing out that I was a guy because of the PP (you maybe?) assuming that people calling her underweight were heavier woman trying to justify their own weight.

You can't expect VISUALLY estimated body fat to be accurate (because a: everyone has a different fat distribution and b: she is not particularly athletic and does not have much muscle definition to base these estimates off of, which is really what the author of that highly subjective article is doing, because that site is for bodybuilders). Unless you have access to medical records that nobody else does? I can tell you without a doubt that most physicians will say she needs to gain weight. She does not look healthy, she looks very thin and that has nothing to do with "preference".

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Oh Lord, we've had this discussion already.

No, she is not anorexic. Anorexia is a rare and life-threatening mental illness. Not every thin person is anorexic.

Europeans are generally much thinner than Americans (not exactly hard!).

Some people find it hard to gain weight at certain points in their life - my mother is like this, and she eats quite normally.

She is probably very conscious of her image and has the means to perfect it - which again, in Europe, is a perfectly good one.

Anorexia is not rare.

Rare? EVERY female I knew in college had a roommate or friend who received inpatient or outpatient treatment for anorexia at some point. Yes, I do think she is anorexic. It scares me how many people on here salivate at her emaciated body. Look at old pictures of her. She was a normal weight and looked athletic and healthy.

So true. Went to Duke -- most of my friends were anorexic and/or bulimic. The more accomplished the more likely they were to have an eating disorder; it's the one socially- sanctioned way for a woman to deal with pressure.

They were thin but still unattractive. A pity!

I am the one who posted anorexia (and bulimia were all over the place). I went to an ivy (in the 90s) and it was all over. Two highschool friends had the same experience at their ivies so add Cornell, Yale and Penn to Duke and we have some pretty bright women risking killing themselves with restriction. Maybe we all just happened to know the few people with anorexia. As mentioned, I'm not labelling thin girls anorexic. These are women who ended up in inpatient and/or outpatient programs.

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

Its your prerogative to find her boy unappealing. I personally think fat people and chubby people are uneappealing, but to each their own.

OTOH, Kate Middleton's body fat probably hovers around 15%, which is not unhealthy.

http://www.ruled.me/visually-estimate-body-fat-percentage/

She looks borderline to me. I think she keeps to a very restricted diet and works out a lot, but I doubt she is actually starving herself. The only parts of her body that looks shocking to me are her back (when you can see the ribs even on the backside, that's a little scary) and her face (very aged/gaunt). I'm a year older than Kate and I feel like I'm at the age where I have to choose between my ass and my face. When I diet down to Kate's size, I look much older. When I'm heavier, I get carded. I try to stay at a happy medium unless I need to drop weight for an event or job where I'll be photographed or on TV a lot. She's ALWAYS going to be photographed and on TV, so I don't blame her for staying so thin, but if she has control issues, she had better be careful not to let herself slip into full-blown anorexia.

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Anonymous wrote:She's tiny but doesn't strike me as anorexic at all.

I wonder if all of those describing Kate as anorexic have ever known someone who truly is.

I think it's wishful thinking on their part, trying to justify their own fatness.

As a guy, I find her body very unappealing. There is nothing seductive about a bony frame. Just the typical stereotype reinforced by media/models that underweight = sexy. I don't know any doctors in my field that would look at her and say "that is a healthy weight". My wife used to look like that and her PC physician kept urging her to put on 5-10 pounds. People (like yourself) need to stop perpetuating this fantasy that no fat = healthy.

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Oh Lord, we've had this discussion already.

No, she is not anorexic. Anorexia is a rare and life-threatening mental illness. Not every thin person is anorexic.

Europeans are generally much thinner than Americans (not exactly hard!).

Some people find it hard to gain weight at certain points in their life - my mother is like this, and she eats quite normally.

She is probably very conscious of her image and has the means to perfect it - which again, in Europe, is a perfectly good one.

Anorexia is not rare.

Rare? EVERY female I knew in college had a roommate or friend who received inpatient or outpatient treatment for anorexia at some point. Yes, I do think she is anorexic. It scares me how many people on here salivate at her emaciated body. Look at old pictures of her. She was a normal weight and looked athletic and healthy.

So true. Went to Duke -- most of my friends were anorexic and/or bulimic. The more accomplished the more likely they were to have an eating disorder; it's the one socially- sanctioned way for a woman to deal with pressure.

They were thin but still unattractive. A pity!

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever met an actual anorexic person? I have. She does not look anorexic.

Yes, I have met many actually. I have worked with women with anorexia. Quite a few were heavier than Kate. There is no indication that Kate is someone who just doesn't like food based on accounts from college. Depression can cause loss of appetite, so maybe that is the case, butt this is not a case of being a picky eater naturally.

What I find so interesting is how even really bright women can fall into this worship of and desire for extreme thinness. Yes, some women find it attractive, but according to surveys and possibly actual research most men like curves and women of a heakthy weight who don't look frail.

You want to hear something really sick. When friend of mine was going through chemo she went from normal weight to severely underweight. She didn't tell most of her coworkers her health situation. Quite a few women (ivy educated lawyers) were begging her to share her weightloss secrets and telling her how fabulous she looked. Quite a few women in treatment for anorexia relay that up until the day they collapsed or decided they needed help, they were receiving compliments-all from women.

Love the dress! I think she looks really classy. It's too bad she doesn't have a good hip/waist ratio but there's not much you can do about that.