Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:35
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think of things in terms of will this help me get to heaven or not. Having an abortion will not help you get to heaven. But I don't think it means you automatically go to hell. Do things that will help you get into heaven. Be a blessing to others and love God.
Nice words, but it's really not that complicated, in terms of avoiding hell. All you have to do is ask forgiveness. People do it all the time, over and over again.
So if Hitler asked for forgiveness, and meant it, that would be ok?
(I am NOT comparing OP to Hitler. I am simply curious how far forgiveness goes.)
Christianity says yes.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:26
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think of things in terms of will this help me get to heaven or not. Having an abortion will not help you get to heaven. But I don't think it means you automatically go to hell. Do things that will help you get into heaven. Be a blessing to others and love God.
Nice words, but it's really not that complicated, in terms of avoiding hell. All you have to do is ask forgiveness. People do it all the time, over and over again.
So if Hitler asked for forgiveness, and meant it, that would be ok?
(I am NOT comparing OP to Hitler. I am simply curious how far forgiveness goes.)
Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:15
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way
It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.
My God is not that petty.
You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god
No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.
Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.
Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.
So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.
So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.
They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.
It's not what we were taught in our "standard" Episcopal church.
Some churches make up their own beliefs too. You mean that the church you went to didn't teach that Jesus came to save us as long as we believed in him?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:13
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way
It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.
My God is not that petty.
You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god
No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.
Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.
Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.
So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.
So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.
They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.
They're not standard for my Protestant church. Are you one of those born again types?
You mean the "type" that follows God's word?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:11
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:I think of things in terms of will this help me get to heaven or not. Having an abortion will not help you get to heaven. But I don't think it means you automatically go to hell. Do things that will help you get into heaven. Be a blessing to others and love God.
Nice words, but it's really not that complicated, in terms of avoiding hell. All you have to do is ask forgiveness. People do it all the time, over and over again.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 21:10
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:I think of things in terms of will this help me get to heaven or not. Having an abortion will not help you get to heaven. But I don't think it means you automatically go to hell. Do things that will help you get into heaven. Be a blessing to others and love God.
Nice words, but it's really not that complicated, in terms of avoiding hell. All you have to do is ask forgiveness. People do it all the time, over and over again.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:05
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
I think of things in terms of will this help me get to heaven or not. Having an abortion will not help you get to heaven. But I don't think it means you automatically go to hell. Do things that will help you get into heaven. Be a blessing to others and love God.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:03
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way
It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.
My God is not that petty.
You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god
No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.
Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.
Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.
So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.
So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.
They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.
It's not what we were taught in our "standard" Episcopal church.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 20:02
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way
It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.
My God is not that petty.
You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god
No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.
Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.
Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.
So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.
So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.
They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.
They're not standard for my Protestant church. Are you one of those born again types?
Anonymous
08/14/2015 17:01
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This keeps me up at night.
My guess is if you believe in hell then you likely believe in a God that does not condone abortion. I believe in a forgiving God and I hope you do as well. That said, forgiveness stems from repentance and repentance is deeply personal. Much stems from how an individual came to the sin in the first place. I imagine being young and coerced into abortion is different from aborting due to inconvenience. Certainly women rationalize it in their heads in different ways. People enter into abortions from so very many angles that I can only assume coming to terms with it, in some cases rationalizing it, would also be very different. First you need to find your peace. When you do you will be best able to explain your story and speak with someone who can guide you to a forgiveness, if that's what you seek.
So my answer is no, I do not believe you are going to hell. I do believe that abortion is a grave act completely counter to God's creation, but I believe God understands the weaknesses of our humanity and will forgive if we admit we acted wrongly and pledge to move forward in a new way.
And we can act wrongly over and over again and God will forgive us because he knows we're weak. The important things is that we believe in him. He can't forgive us for not believing in him.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 16:55
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
There are few standard Christian beliefs. There would be little overlap between what a Crusader believed in 1080 and what some liberal Episcopalian would believe now, or some fundamentalist baptist.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 16:52
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LOL no it doesn't work that way
It most certainly does. God knows his people are sinners and he forgives them as long as they are sorry and continue to believe in Jesus as their savior. If they are sorry, or stop committing so many sins but no longer believe in Jesus, then he does not forgive them. Those people don't care, because they no longer believe in salvation, but God is still keeping track of them and will punish them after they die for their lack of belief, no matter how good they were compared to faithful Christians.
My God is not that petty.
You decided that christian beliefs are petty and invented your own god
No, I decided your version of Christianity is petty and wrong.
Well, again that's nice, but "what you decided" has no basis in fact or reality.
Sure it does, just as much as yours does. I've read the Bible. I'm good at interpreting words. Lots of Christians disagree with you on this.
So what -- Christianity is not a popularity contest.
So you should stop pretending this is what all Christians believe.
They are standard Christian beliefs and it's pretty obvious from this thread that not all Christians believe them. Some people make up their own beliefs.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 16:28
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This keeps me up at night.
My guess is if you believe in hell then you likely believe in a God that does not condone abortion. I believe in a forgiving God and I hope you do as well. That said, forgiveness stems from repentance and repentance is deeply personal. Much stems from how an individual came to the sin in the first place. I imagine being young and coerced into abortion is different from aborting due to inconvenience. Certainly women rationalize it in their heads in different ways. People enter into abortions from so very many angles that I can only assume coming to terms with it, in some cases rationalizing it, would also be very different. First you need to find your peace. When you do you will be best able to explain your story and speak with someone who can guide you to a forgiveness, if that's what you seek.
So my answer is no, I do not believe you are going to hell. I do believe that abortion is a grave act completely counter to God's creation, but I believe God understands the weaknesses of our humanity and will forgive if we admit we acted wrongly and pledge to move forward in a new way.
This was a very thoughtful response. Very well said.
As a Christian, it took me years to understand the meaning of "God's Grace". OP - I hope you find it.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 16:20
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:This keeps me up at night.
My guess is if you believe in hell then you likely believe in a God that does not condone abortion. I believe in a forgiving God and I hope you do as well. That said, forgiveness stems from repentance and repentance is deeply personal. Much stems from how an individual came to the sin in the first place. I imagine being young and coerced into abortion is different from aborting due to inconvenience. Certainly women rationalize it in their heads in different ways. People enter into abortions from so very many angles that I can only assume coming to terms with it, in some cases rationalizing it, would also be very different. First you need to find your peace. When you do you will be best able to explain your story and speak with someone who can guide you to a forgiveness, if that's what you seek.
So my answer is no, I do not believe you are going to hell. I do believe that abortion is a grave act completely counter to God's creation, but I believe God understands the weaknesses of our humanity and will forgive if we admit we acted wrongly and pledge to move forward in a new way.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 15:10
Subject: Do you think having an abortion will mean you are going to hell?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Not believing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your savior is why people go to hell, not specific sins.
This.
So all Jews go to Hell. I save sick children, but I go to hell. This is why it's so hard to respect religious people.
Jews are God's chosen people.
So...what?
So.. He created a special relationship with the Jewish people. I do not believe that they will go to hell, even though they do not believe that Jesus is the savior.
If you believe this you're completely ignoring the entire New Testament.