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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of all of this that an applicant should consider the employer's culture and make the choice accordingly? DC isn't Menlo Park, and Menlo Park isn't DC. Just be strategic, know your audience, and take that into account.
And to the Google poster, I know many very happy people working at Google in California as well as a few here in DC. There are, though, good reasons people may not want to work in Google's dc shop given other options. It's certainly not because the applicants aren't innovative or aren't risk takers, just that they don't think the DC office work opportunity is worth the risk. Also, the few senior people I know at Google's dc office have all of their kids in private school, so not surprisingly there seems to be some difference of opinion even among those in Blessed Google's lobbying shop.

I am another west coast poster, the one who attended a highly-regarded west coast school, and whose classmates never use the school as a resume line. This is the case even when applying in the west coast region where its mention would certainly open doors, as many of the pertinent industry's most influential people currently have, or have had, connections to that school.

The difference might be that Washington, DC is essentially a small town compared to the other areas of this country where the influence of these peer schools matter. It is a bit like residing in a small southern town, where the place one attended high school still matters. In New York or San Francisco it is considered more a peculiar "affectation" to cling to one's high school on a resume, even a highly elite private school, when those cities are so large, with so many people coming from well-regarded private and public high schools from across the region and around the country. The west coast, in particular, also values and embraces an egalitarian ethos.

Exactly, so, when in Rome . . . .

Except I hire here, in DC, and I continue to maintain that listing high school on the resume here, at least for professional jobs, is not a good idea. From reading this thread, it seems the only ones who disagree are those who themselves attended elite private schools. Perhaps their reality is a little skewed? They don't hand out humility and common sense with fancy degrees, unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of all of this that an applicant should consider the employer's culture and make the choice accordingly? DC isn't Menlo Park, and Menlo Park isn't DC. Just be strategic, know your audience, and take that into account.
And to the Google poster, I know many very happy people working at Google in California as well as a few here in DC. There are, though, good reasons people may not want to work in Google's dc shop given other options. It's certainly not because the applicants aren't innovative or aren't risk takers, just that they don't think the DC office work opportunity is worth the risk. Also, the few senior people I know at Google's dc office have all of their kids in private school, so not surprisingly there seems to be some difference of opinion even among those in Blessed Google's lobbying shop.

I am another west coast poster, the one who attended a highly-regarded west coast school, and whose classmates never use the school as a resume line. This is the case even when applying in the west coast region where its mention would certainly open doors, as many of the pertinent industry's most influential people currently have, or have had, connections to that school.

The difference might be that Washington, DC is essentially a small town compared to the other areas of this country where the influence of these peer schools matter. It is a bit like residing in a small southern town, where the place one attended high school still matters. In New York or San Francisco it is considered more a peculiar "affectation" to cling to one's high school on a resume, even a highly elite private school, when those cities are so large, with so many people coming from well-regarded private and public high schools from across the region and around the country. The west coast, in particular, also values and embraces an egalitarian ethos.

Exactly, so, when in Rome . . . .

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of all of this that an applicant should consider the employer's culture and make the choice accordingly? DC isn't Menlo Park, and Menlo Park isn't DC. Just be strategic, know your audience, and take that into account.
And to the Google poster, I know many very happy people working at Google in California as well as a few here in DC. There are, though, good reasons people may not want to work in Google's dc shop given other options. It's certainly not because the applicants aren't innovative or aren't risk takers, just that they don't think the DC office work opportunity is worth the risk. Also, the few senior people I know at Google's dc office have all of their kids in private school, so not surprisingly there seems to be some difference of opinion even among those in Blessed Google's lobbying shop.

I am another west coast poster, the one who attended a highly-regarded west coast school, and whose classmates never use the school as a resume line. This is the case even when applying in the west coast region where its mention would certainly open doors, as many of the pertinent industry's most influential people currently have, or have had, connections to that school.

The difference might be that Washington, DC is essentially a small town compared to the other areas of this country where the influence of these peer schools matter. It is a bit like residing in a small southern town, where the place one attended high school still matters. In New York or San Francisco it is considered more a peculiar "affectation" to cling to one's high school on a resume, even a highly elite private school, when those cities are so large, with so many people coming from well-regarded private and public high schools from across the region and around the country. The west coast, in particular, also values and embraces an egalitarian ethos.

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of all of this that an applicant should consider the employer's culture and make the choice accordingly? DC isn't Menlo Park, and Menlo Park isn't DC. Just be strategic, know your audience, and take that into account.
And to the Google poster, I know many very happy people working at Google in California as well as a few here in DC. There are, though, good reasons people may not want to work in Google's dc shop given other options. It's certainly not because the applicants aren't innovative or aren't risk takers, just that they don't think the DC office work opportunity is worth the risk. Also, the few senior people I know at Google's dc office have all of their kids in private school, so not surprisingly there seems to be some difference of opinion even among those in Blessed Google's lobbying shop.

Anonymous wrote:Stanford. Don't hire anyone from Stanford and make sure to not hire anyone from Stanford. Feel better? We won't be missing the opportunity. Trust me.

Anonymous wrote:Putting it on a resume anywhere if you are someone with college or advanced degrees is dumb. I was PP on the West Coast points. Agree to disagree. I have colleagues who could literally afford anything. We're talking islands in Bahamas money, and they live in 3,000 square foot homes in Menlo Park. But you've obviously never lived or spend much time on the West Coast. Here the focal point is how silly it is to go through life saying I went to a certain prep school in adult life. And it is dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:If you put a DC prep school on a resume for a job in NYC or on the West Coast, you'd look like a rank bottom fool. If you have a college degree or graduate degrees, those are the data points. There are also a lot of billionaire college dropouts in the technology sector who have hired a lot of plain IQ people who also don't carry a lot of academic prestige value. The real world is a lot more egalitarian outside of middle or high middle income law firm and commercial real estate local jobs. I see the point made that the old boy network from places like STA can travel in town here. Outside of DC it isn't a real smart brag.

+ 1. I lived on the West Coast, and attended one of the most well-known and highly regarded prep schools out there. I do not know a single one of my high school classmates who includes the name of our school on their resume.

Anonymous wrote:If you put a DC prep school on a resume for a job in NYC or on the West Coast, you'd look like a rank bottom fool. If you have a college degree or graduate degrees, those are the data points. There are also a lot of billionaire college dropouts in the technology sector who have hired a lot of plain IQ people who also don't carry a lot of academic prestige value. The real world is a lot more egalitarian outside of middle or high middle income law firm and commercial real estate local jobs. I see the point made that the old boy network from places like STA can travel in town here. Outside of DC it isn't a real smart brag.

Anonymous wrote:Or West Coast money (flip flops, don't care).