Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:46     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS is a rising 8th grader. When I was reading this thread, I asked him how he would have felt if we had skipped K for him (he is a kid who went into K as a strong reader). He was horrified, and said that maybe ES would have been okay, but he never would have been able to manage MS a year early. He's right. He was not organized, mature or motivated enough to manage a rigorous AAP Center when he was 11. An extra year of physical maturity help him too (he wasn't the shortest boy with no body hair). I imagine the same will be true when he starts HS.


When is your son's birthday?


Mid summer


Sorry-- this was me and no coffee yet birthday is mid spring (April)
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:44     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS is a rising 8th grader. When I was reading this thread, I asked him how he would have felt if we had skipped K for him (he is a kid who went into K as a strong reader). He was horrified, and said that maybe ES would have been okay, but he never would have been able to manage MS a year early. He's right. He was not organized, mature or motivated enough to manage a rigorous AAP Center when he was 11. An extra year of physical maturity help him too (he wasn't the shortest boy with no body hair). I imagine the same will be true when he starts HS.


When is your son's birthday?


Mid summer
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:42     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:My DS is a rising 8th grader. When I was reading this thread, I asked him how he would have felt if we had skipped K for him (he is a kid who went into K as a strong reader). He was horrified, and said that maybe ES would have been okay, but he never would have been able to manage MS a year early. He's right. He was not organized, mature or motivated enough to manage a rigorous AAP Center when he was 11. An extra year of physical maturity help him too (he wasn't the shortest boy with no body hair). I imagine the same will be true when he starts HS.


When is your son's birthday?
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:13     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
My DS is a rising 8th grader. When I was reading this thread, I asked him how he would have felt if we had skipped K for him (he is a kid who went into K as a strong reader). He was horrified, and said that maybe ES would have been okay, but he never would have been able to manage MS a year early. He's right. He was not organized, mature or motivated enough to manage a rigorous AAP Center when he was 11. An extra year of physical maturity help him too (he wasn't the shortest boy with no body hair). I imagine the same will be true when he starts HS.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:08     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
^^^ this looks terrible, but it's what you get when you use an iPhone
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 07:06     Subject: Re:What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DD was born at just over 34 weeks, and came home with me. No one ever suggested there was brain risk involved (they did try hard to keep from coming until lung maturity). I have certainly have never thought it a Miracle that she was developmentally normal and even (gasp!) became an extremely bright AAP student.

I am glad your daughter is OK. Tell me - do you think it makes sense that another woman's daughter, who was conceived on the same night as your daughter but born at full term, isn't fit to attend K but your DD is?


I'm the PP on this, and I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Here's an attempt to answer. 34-35 weeks is technically premie, and she spent extra time sleeping her first few weeks. But after she wa six months old, we were not mentally age adjusting for anything, and she met her milestones. So, when she was 5, it would have never crossed my mind to age adjust for K or to use her premie status As a favor in decision making.

My point was that with 34-35 you need to be concerned with lung development. It turns out my DC had bad reflux and was a problem eater (at age 12, we still have issues with this) and being a premie probably made this worse. She had some jaundice for the first week, which is also common in premies. But no one ever suggested she was at significant risk for brain damage. A 24 weeker who may have brain bleeds, okay. But not at 34-35 weeks. And I say this as a parents who was hospitalized at 30 weeks for preecampsia and preterm labor thatt required ongoing magnesium and other IV meds I managed to hold on to her until my doctor was sure her lungs had matured and was able to say she was at a low risk for long term complications. Which was she between 34-35 weeks.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2015 00:10     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, OP, you are so silly. Two of my children were born 8 and 10 days late, respectively. They were both due at the end of September. Guess what! They went on time with their correct age group *even though they were overdue and SHOULD have gone with children conceived at the same time as them*. It is mind-blowing, I know.

I don't know why you are so desperate to send your kid to school early. Are you trying to save on a year of daycare cost?

By enrolling in private K? Haha.
What I think is silly is you thinking that kids born eight days before your children magically belong to a different age group, as if these eight days are a watershed moment in their lives and have allowed their brains to mature a full year's worth.


Hey OP, I'm with you on this. My DS birthday is 10/1 and I'm definitely not waiting another year for him to start Kindergarten. A lot of people can come up with a anecdotal stories about people they knew that went early and suffered. My brother was red shirted and hated it. He was the oldest in his class and he was made fun of relentlessly. All the other kids always thought he repeated a grade. It didn't help that he was almost 6 feet tall in 7th grade. My best friend skipped kindergarten, graduated high school at 16 as our valedictorian, prom queen and dated the best looking, most popular guy in our class. Then went top undergrad, UT Austin Law school and now leads her own entertainment law firm in LA while married to a now retired NFL player. My brother on the other hand, well...whatever. I really think it depends on your kid. If my DS is ready when the time comes (and I plan on making sure he is) he will go to a private K and not wait.

My issue is the bolded. I know they have to set a cutoff. I get that. But in my case, I'm not going to let one day be the judge and jury. I don't think a kid born 9/30 has anything on my kid born a day later. So why shouldn't he get a chance to see if he can cut it?[/quote

Really, name the law firm.


Not going to, don't have to. I'm not going to going to play that game with anyone on an anonymous board. Interesting that you asked for proof regarding the success story of my BF and not the details of my red-shirted brother. Anyway, again as many posters have said, it depends on your kid, that's all that matters.



Well, they both sound like complete bs, but surely the allegedly super star friend is readily idemtifiable, and why would she mind being outed as a superstar? on the other hand, it would be impossible to verify your brother was unpopular in middle school. In any case, I call fervently anti red shirting troll.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 23:23     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, OP, you are so silly. Two of my children were born 8 and 10 days late, respectively. They were both due at the end of September. Guess what! They went on time with their correct age group *even though they were overdue and SHOULD have gone with children conceived at the same time as them*. It is mind-blowing, I know.

I don't know why you are so desperate to send your kid to school early. Are you trying to save on a year of daycare cost?

By enrolling in private K? Haha.
What I think is silly is you thinking that kids born eight days before your children magically belong to a different age group, as if these eight days are a watershed moment in their lives and have allowed their brains to mature a full year's worth.


Hey OP, I'm with you on this. My DS birthday is 10/1 and I'm definitely not waiting another year for him to start Kindergarten. A lot of people can come up with a anecdotal stories about people they knew that went early and suffered. My brother was red shirted and hated it. He was the oldest in his class and he was made fun of relentlessly. All the other kids always thought he repeated a grade. It didn't help that he was almost 6 feet tall in 7th grade. My best friend skipped kindergarten, graduated high school at 16 as our valedictorian, prom queen and dated the best looking, most popular guy in our class. Then went top undergrad, UT Austin Law school and now leads her own entertainment law firm in LA while married to a now retired NFL player. My brother on the other hand, well...whatever. I really think it depends on your kid. If my DS is ready when the time comes (and I plan on making sure he is) he will go to a private K and not wait.

My issue is the bolded. I know they have to set a cutoff. I get that. But in my case, I'm not going to let one day be the judge and jury. I don't think a kid born 9/30 has anything on my kid born a day later. So why shouldn't he get a chance to see if he can cut it?[/quote

Really, name the law firm.


Not going to, don't have to. I'm not going to going to play that game with anyone on an anonymous board. Interesting that you asked for proof regarding the success story of my BF and not the details of my red-shirted brother. Anyway, again as many posters have said, it depends on your kid, that's all that matters.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 23:10     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, OP, you are so silly. Two of my children were born 8 and 10 days late, respectively. They were both due at the end of September. Guess what! They went on time with their correct age group *even though they were overdue and SHOULD have gone with children conceived at the same time as them*. It is mind-blowing, I know.

I don't know why you are so desperate to send your kid to school early. Are you trying to save on a year of daycare cost?

By enrolling in private K? Haha.
What I think is silly is you thinking that kids born eight days before your children magically belong to a different age group, as if these eight days are a watershed moment in their lives and have allowed their brains to mature a full year's worth.


Hey OP, I'm with you on this. My DS birthday is 10/1 and I'm definitely not waiting another year for him to start Kindergarten. A lot of people can come up with a anecdotal stories about people they knew that went early and suffered. My brother was red shirted and hated it. He was the oldest in his class and he was made fun of relentlessly. All the other kids always thought he repeated a grade. It didn't help that he was almost 6 feet tall in 7th grade. My best friend skipped kindergarten, graduated high school at 16 as our valedictorian, prom queen and dated the best looking, most popular guy in our class. Then went top undergrad, UT Austin Law school and now leads her own entertainment law firm in LA while married to a now retired NFL player. My brother on the other hand, well...whatever. I really think it depends on your kid. If my DS is ready when the time comes (and I plan on making sure he is) he will go to a private K and not wait.

My issue is the bolded. I know they have to set a cutoff. I get that. But in my case, I'm not going to let one day be the judge and jury. I don't think a kid born 9/30 has anything on my kid born a day later. So why shouldn't he get a chance to see if he can cut it?[/quote

Really, name the law firm.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:47     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LOL, OP, you are so silly. Two of my children were born 8 and 10 days late, respectively. They were both due at the end of September. Guess what! They went on time with their correct age group *even though they were overdue and SHOULD have gone with children conceived at the same time as them*. It is mind-blowing, I know.

I don't know why you are so desperate to send your kid to school early. Are you trying to save on a year of daycare cost?

By enrolling in private K? Haha.
What I think is silly is you thinking that kids born eight days before your children magically belong to a different age group, as if these eight days are a watershed moment in their lives and have allowed their brains to mature a full year's worth.


Hey OP, I'm with you on this. My DS birthday is 10/1 and I'm definitely not waiting another year for him to start Kindergarten. A lot of people can come up with a anecdotal stories about people they knew that went early and suffered. My brother was red shirted and hated it. He was the oldest in his class and he was made fun of relentlessly. All the other kids always thought he repeated a grade. It didn't help that he was almost 6 feet tall in 7th grade. My best friend skipped kindergarten, graduated high school at 16 as our valedictorian, prom queen and dated the best looking, most popular guy in our class. Then went top undergrad, UT Austin Law school and now leads her own entertainment law firm in LA while married to a now retired NFL player. My brother on the other hand, well...whatever. I really think it depends on your kid. If my DS is ready when the time comes (and I plan on making sure he is) he will go to a private K and not wait.

My issue is the bolded. I know they have to set a cutoff. I get that. But in my case, I'm not going to let one day be the judge and jury. I don't think a kid born 9/30 has anything on my kid born a day later. So why shouldn't he get a chance to see if he can cut it?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:25     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:LOL, OP, you are so silly. Two of my children were born 8 and 10 days late, respectively. They were both due at the end of September. Guess what! They went on time with their correct age group *even though they were overdue and SHOULD have gone with children conceived at the same time as them*. It is mind-blowing, I know.

I don't know why you are so desperate to send your kid to school early. Are you trying to save on a year of daycare cost?

By enrolling in private K? Haha.
What I think is silly is you thinking that kids born eight days before your children magically belong to a different age group, as if these eight days are a watershed moment in their lives and have allowed their brains to mature a full year's worth.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:22     Subject: Re:What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DD was born at just over 34 weeks, and came home with me. No one ever suggested there was brain risk involved (they did try hard to keep from coming until lung maturity). I have certainly have never thought it a Miracle that she was developmentally normal and even (gasp!) became an extremely bright AAP student.

I am glad your daughter is OK. Tell me - do you think it makes sense that another woman's daughter, who was conceived on the same night as your daughter but born at full term, isn't fit to attend K but your DD is?[/quoting

Definitely a troll. No rational person would argue that school age guidelines should be based on date of conception.

Think about it. Two kids with the same due date. One is born early, the other born at due date. According to the current rules, the first is mature enough to attend school, and the second is immature and set for failure. Do you think that makes sense? What's the logic?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:21     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
In San Diego county this is the norm. The cut off date is Dec 4. Lot of 17 year old graduates there.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:19     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
I just can't imagine a scenario where the best thing would be a boy being a year and a half younger than his classmates. Poor kid. Middle school sucks enough.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2015 22:18     Subject: What would you do? The opposite of redshirting
Anonymous wrote:Unless your son is a genius, just follow the age guidline.


Didn't you read the OP? He is clearly a genius. She should just sign him up for Nysmith or Edlin with all the other Little Einsteins.