Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Let me try again. What, if any, would be the FINANCIAL penalty if the fraudster was a bonafide DC resident?

Correct. I stand corrected. Two different issues. Both are maddening and dishonest.

The form we sign does have some legal language about the penalty for fraudulently signing that form. I will look that up. There should be a fine for everyone and then responsibility for tuition payment for non dc residents. Make more sense now?

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Let me try again. What, if any, would be the FINANCIAL penalty if the fraudster was a bonafide DC resident?

Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

The PP wasn't talking about the cops. Just generally speaking. New situation. John Doe lives 100% in NE DC zoned for Burroughs, cheats to get into Hearst. What would the penalty be if found other than being kicked out of Hearst? What financial remedy could there be?

If we're going to sue police officers for things like this, the city should also be investigating the dozens (I'm guessing at that amount) of upper class families who live within the Hardy MS boundary but rent an efficiency apt in the Deal boundary and falsely use that as their address for the 3 years of middle school. At our children's private school, a family pulled their kids out in middle school to go this route. They were surprisingly open about it, claiming that several of their Palisades neighbors recommended it, since it's much, much cheaper to pay for an unused efficiency apartment than to foot one or more private school tuitions for the year.

It's still residency fraud!

I used to live in Pittsburgh, and to have any kind of city govt job there--teachers, firefighters, and police included--you had to live in the city. It's hard to implement a policy like this retroactively, of course, and with the cost of housing in DC now, it would never fly as policy. But other places have made this work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope they beat the case and get off scot-free. Parents who go the extra mile to get their kids into DCPS are like illegal immigrants who have anchor babies to get into the US -- they're strivers who are better than the complacent mediocrities we normally get, and we're better off having them than whoever we would have had in their place.

Actually they're just lazy cheapskates who liked the convenience of drop off near their jobs and didn't want to pay for aftercare where they actually live. Oh, and they're also criminals.

Yes, lazy cheapskates absolutely. Although you never know someone's fjnancial situation, i dont believe this was a case of not being able to afford living in dc. Knew them tangentially. They owned multiple rental properties maybe a whole bldg as another pp mentioned and hosted kids' parties in their reprtedly very large md home.
Great news that the law is finally catching up to them. Feel bad for the kids but the parents made bad decisions and the family will have to face the consequences.
Someone mentioned that they are actually criminals, is this a criminal offense? Will they lose their police badges? Be charged with a crime?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

This.

but the number of people who think property ownership - not occupancy is enough is huge. And they are wrong.

they know the rules very well and this is why they lie. they never say "we live in MD but hey we own a rental property in DC". no. they falsely declare that they live in the rental in DC even though they know very well is not the truth. so there is no mistake, they lie and they know that. the people who woule be making an homest mistake are the ones who would say in the form that they live in MD ir VA and own a property in DC where they do not live, but this somehow never happens. they are cheaters, not people who make mistakes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope they beat the case and get off scot-free. Parents who go the extra mile to get their kids into DCPS are like illegal immigrants who have anchor babies to get into the US -- they're strivers who are better than the complacent mediocrities we normally get, and we're better off having them than whoever we would have had in their place.

Actually they're just lazy cheapskates who liked the convenience of drop off near their jobs and didn't want to pay for aftercare where they actually live. Oh, and they're also criminals.

+1 they know better as officers of the law. There is simply no excuse.

Anonymous wrote:Hope they beat the case and get off scot-free. Parents who go the extra mile to get their kids into DCPS are like illegal immigrants who have anchor babies to get into the US -- they're strivers who are better than the complacent mediocrities we normally get, and we're better off having them than whoever we would have had in their place.

Actually they're just lazy cheapskates who liked the convenience of drop off near their jobs and didn't want to pay for aftercare where they actually live. Oh, and they're also criminals.

Hope they beat the case and get off scot-free. Parents who go the extra mile to get their kids into DCPS are like illegal immigrants who have anchor babies to get into the US -- they're strivers who are better than the complacent mediocrities we normally get, and we're better off having them than whoever we would have had in their place.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

It did make you a resident pre-2008. The rules changed. Where is that posted? It seems the public website aligns with the pre-and rules.

Every time you document your residency in DC for schools, you swear that you and your child reside at the address and that you are aware of the penalties of making untrue statements. They certainly were aware of the law.

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

This.

but the number of people who think property ownership - not occupancy is enough is huge. And they are wrong.

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

It did make you a resident pre-2008. The rules changed. Where is that posted? It seems the public website aligns with the pre-and rules.

They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.