Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Come on. Think about this for a minute. Even a politically connected group of parents from Ward 3 can not out weigh the hundreds of OOB parents at schools WOTP and the thousands across the city that would stand behind them out of fear of being next. And let's be clear- this is not a Black/White issue anymore. High SES, politically connected EOTP white parents are using the OOB system. Put them together with the politically connected high SES AA parents who have historically used OOB, and you have an ugly battle on your hands that no politician wants to deal with. Besides, do you really think Bowser would go for this? That meeting was a royal waste of time.

We got OOB lottery into Hearst our second year of trying, when my kids were in 2nd and K. Could work for you at JKLMM - just keep doing the lottery and try and slide in, in a higher grade.

Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Which one?

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Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

OMG if this is true I am horrified. We are a Lafayette family and if my neighbors are doing this they should all be ashamed.

They are! Now that the street light issue was won, I guess they are taking on the school situation. I am friends with them but I don't know for how much longer, as I live EotP.

Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

OMG if this is true I am horrified. We are a Lafayette family and if my neighbors are doing this they should all be ashamed.

Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Anonymous wrote:But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

Nothing gave for 40 years before this last boundary review and politics have gotten even crazier. This topic of boundaries and feeder rights is radioactive to politicians. What city leader in their right mind would reopen this can of worms before the next scheduled review? The schools themselves will have to figure out work-arounds with trailers and such, just like they did for the last 40 years.

Of course, if housing prices keep rising, this problem will resolve itself. People with kids won't be able to live here and that will empty out the schools faster than anything else .

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Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

+1000 It's funny how people love to theorize about which school will be cut from Deal or how OOB policy is on the verge of ending as if that is anywhere close to reality. If anyone participated in the DME boundary and feed-rights process you'll know that these things will NOT happen anytime in the near future that would impact the people railing on this thread. As PP said, by the time anything significant changes, you're kids will be heading off to college. A few anonymous people sitting at their computers deciding that "x" school will get cut from Deal is nothing more than wishful thinking of parents who don't understand the history, the recent decisions or the political landscape. OOB policies were affirmed earlier and more strongly than just about anything during the DME process. The decision-makers made it clear very early on that OOB wasn't on the table to be touched in any significant way. In fact, they double downed by establishing the idea of set-asides for at-risk children.

+1.

I would like to underscore, if anyone thinks "x" school is getting cut out of Deal sometime soon...NOT GOING TO HAPPEN (not Lafayette, not Hearst, not Bancroft, not ANY school that is currently in the Deal feeder pattern. Sorry Eaton, I know misery loves company, but it is, what it is for now). That fight was brutal. As previously noted, no politician wants to tackle this one again. The only reason why they decided to push the issue last year was because Grey was headed out the door and they had a small window of opportunity. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are even scheduled to look at boundaries, etc. again for almost 10 years.

I do feel for Eaton. They basically got fu$&ed in the boundary process.

Anonymous wrote:But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

The only way it will "give" is for DCPS to build and open new, desirable schools that will prompt families to self-select. Watch closely how Brookland MS does in the first 2-3 years with the Janney principal at the helm. If she can make it happen then there's a chance. And if DCPS won't do it (build new, desirable alternatives), the charters will try. But telling OOB families that the feeder path they have been promised is suddenly going away, will not happen. Any announcement of that sort will have a several year lead time warning.

But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

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Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

+1000 It's funny how people love to theorize about which school will be cut from Deal or how OOB policy is on the verge of ending as if that is anywhere close to reality. If anyone participated in the DME boundary and feed-rights process you'll know that these things will NOT happen anytime in the near future that would impact the people railing on this thread. As PP said, by the time anything significant changes, you're kids will be heading off to college. A few anonymous people sitting at their computers deciding that "x" school will get cut from Deal is nothing more than wishful thinking of parents who don't understand the history, the recent decisions or the political landscape. OOB policies were affirmed earlier and more strongly than just about anything during the DME process. The decision-makers made it clear very early on that OOB wasn't on the table to be touched in any significant way. In fact, they double downed by establishing the idea of set-asides for at-risk children.

+1.

I would like to underscore, if anyone thinks "x" school is getting cut out of Deal sometime soon...NOT GOING TO HAPPEN (not Lafayette, not Hearst, not Bancroft, not ANY school that is currently in the Deal feeder pattern. Sorry Eaton, I know misery loves company, but it is, what it is for now). That fight was brutal. As previously noted, no politician wants to tackle this one again. The only reason why they decided to push the issue last year was because Grey was headed out the door and they had a small window of opportunity. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are even scheduled to look at boundaries, etc. again for almost 10 years.

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Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

+1000 It's funny how people love to theorize about which school will be cut from Deal or how OOB policy is on the verge of ending as if that is anywhere close to reality. If anyone participated in the DME boundary and feed-rights process you'll know that these things will NOT happen anytime in the near future that would impact the people railing on this thread. As PP said, by the time anything significant changes, you're kids will be heading off to college. A few anonymous people sitting at their computers deciding that "x" school will get cut from Deal is nothing more than wishful thinking of parents who don't understand the history, the recent decisions or the political landscape. OOB policies were affirmed earlier and more strongly than just about anything during the DME process. The decision-makers made it clear very early on that OOB wasn't on the table to be touched in any significant way. In fact, they double downed by establishing the idea of set-asides for at-risk children.

I fully agree with sentiments that changes will be very hard, but I do think it is possible (not certain) that some changes will happen before we are well into the 2020s. The boundary process did build in review of overcrowded schools before then. Schools like Janney and Murch will have to make some changes whether they like it or not. That will certainly means things like larger class sizes and fewer PK4 classrooms, but probably also some tweaks to their boundaries though how will depend on enrollment shifts in the future (will Lafayette's enrollment really start to decline, for example). I agree that OOB feeder rights are probably untouchable, but frankly for the Deal feeder won't be that relevant. School like Shepherd, Hearst, and Bancroft are getting to be largely IB at early grades. While politicians might not want to make changes, if (and it is an IF, because overcrowding might convince fewer feeder students to continue on) the current path of overcrowding continues at Deal and Wilson, politicians and community members cannot change the laws of physics. Believe it or not, you can run out of space for trailers. Murch is demonstrating that.

Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

+1000 It's funny how people love to theorize about which school will be cut from Deal or how OOB policy is on the verge of ending as if that is anywhere close to reality. If anyone participated in the DME boundary and feed-rights process you'll know that these things will NOT happen anytime in the near future that would impact the people railing on this thread. As PP said, by the time anything significant changes, you're kids will be heading off to college. A few anonymous people sitting at their computers deciding that "x" school will get cut from Deal is nothing more than wishful thinking of parents who don't understand the history, the recent decisions or the political landscape. OOB policies were affirmed earlier and more strongly than just about anything during the DME process. The decision-makers made it clear very early on that OOB wasn't on the table to be touched in any significant way. In fact, they double downed by establishing the idea of set-asides for at-risk children.

The student population at Murch would double if all you had to do was rent an in-bounds apartment for a few months in September and move out mid-year in order to get a permanent spot at Murch (and Deal and Wilson).

Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

I think that's right. Though maybe they won't wait 40 years for the next rewrite!