DCPS needs to build a new middle school in Palisades. Problem solved.

There are obviously a few people who are absolutely obsessed with knowing how many in-boundary students attend Hardy. The obsession displayed here has become absurd in my opinion. The truth is, Hardy truly is on the upswing, is making strides, is going to be great and is going to succeed with or without in-boundary students and support. I hope more IB kids attend because it's a great school.

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

Sure. And their argument that even out-of-boundary kids that went to Hardy's in-boundary elementary schools (and therefore are just as likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects as their in-boundary peers) should not be counted as IB for the sake of Hardy - which card is that?

That's the mathematical rigor card. Since that number was never reported in the past, and the numbers that were reported in the past haven't been reported yet this year, there is no basis for making a comparison to previous years.

Mathematical rigor in what? Determining if there is a small enough number of out-of-boundary kids that attended Hardy in-boundary schools so that your family feels comfortable attending Hardy? And you can't see how those out-of-boundary families would take umbrage at all this way of thinking?

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

Sure. And their argument that even out-of-boundary kids that went to Hardy's in-boundary elementary schools (and therefore are just as likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects as their in-boundary peers) should not be counted as IB for the sake of Hardy - which card is that?

That's the mathematical rigor card. Since that number was never reported in the past, and the numbers that were reported in the past haven't been reported yet this year, there is no basis for making a comparison to previous years.

Do people realize that DC had triple that size of students...
Data would show you that Eastern, Ballou and Dunbar all had populations much larger than Wilson with 2,000+ being the norm. Hell if Wilson is first largest and Eastern is the second largest with Friendship surpassing Wilson and Eastern...I think the worry has been eliminated. Wilson is crying wolf...it ain't no way in the hell they will reach 1800...it ain't happening. Lying ass tigers...

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

It's also a proxy for parents who will be pretty demanding when it comes to school quality and continuous improvement. This is a generalization, of course, but it's not unreasonable given Hardy's historic resistance, if not outright hostility, to change.

Gee, i have no idea why the current OOB Hardy parents would be the slightest bit upset about the blanket assumption that their kids are not academically successful and that they are disinterested in school quality and continuous improvement.

Come on people- you lob these (sometimes subtle, sometimes overt) criticisms endlessly at the parents that currently send their kids to Hardy - and then have the nerve to get on your high horse when these parents call you on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

Sure. And their argument that even out-of-boundary kids that went to Hardy's in-boundary elementary schools (and therefore are just as likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects as their in-boundary peers) should not be counted as IB for the sake of Hardy - which card is that?

Do you have the data to support your parenthetical? I think you're very probably correct, but I'd be interested in knowing OOB feeder school kids' performance statistics vs. IB kids' performance statistics. The answer would probably help us understand the effect of lower % FARMS student population on overall student testing performance.

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

It's also a proxy for parents who will be pretty demanding when it comes to school quality and continuous improvement. This is a generalization, of course, but it's not unreasonable given Hardy's historic resistance, if not outright hostility, to change.

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

Sure. And their argument that even out-of-boundary kids that went to Hardy's in-boundary elementary schools (and therefore are just as likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects as their in-boundary peers) should not be counted as IB for the sake of Hardy - which card is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

I'd say it's the "percentage of students likely to be proficient or advanced in academic subjects" card.

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Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

Ummm, it's not the current boosters who are continually obsessed with the single question "How many IB students are attending Hardy." What exactly do you think is meant by that question, and what card do you think these people are playing when they ask that question?

Anonymous wrote:Current Hardy parents are 100% correct about this concern. Plenty of snobby parents have a grudge based only on color, as much as they deny it. Hardy always had greatness and seriously dedicated teachers who probably wish they didn't have to deal with DEAL type parents. To those parents worried Hardy is not Deal, hardy is BETTER in many ways--smaller - better location- more diversity- hunger for dedicated families-- don't u spoiled w3 crowd screw it up!!

Hardy will NEVER improve significantly if its current boosters keep playing the race card ("snobby parents have a grudge based only on color"), rather than acknowledging legitimate concern and criticism about the school. And, as for your "grudge," why is it that WOTP parents are jealously trying to preserve their rights to Deal, which is a very racially diverse school? The difference is quality, not race.

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Anonymous wrote:We are IB for Deal and have every intent to lottery for Hardy.

+1. We're years away from that decision but considering the same thing, depending in our kid's needs at the time--Deal seems awesome in many ways but just so huge. I think we'll take a serious look at Hardy when the time comes (if we can even get in OOB then).

Maybe there should be a marketplace on Craigslist or Ebay, because there are many families who are IB for Hardy who would love to switch with you if you are IB for Deal!

Anonymous wrote:Hardy parents - how do the afterschool activities compare to Deal? Deal is very large, but with that comes all the extras that a smaller school can't provide -- and this has nothing to do with color or $.

People keep saying this, but in my experience a small school can still put on tons of after-school activities. More than your kid should probably be doing. At Hearst (which has around 300 children) our child is doing one and sometimes 2 activities a day after school. (Yeah, yeah over scheduled.. blah, blah, blah) Sure size matters -- you will be less likely to find enough folks who want to start the hammered dulcimer club or the toewrestling club. But LOTS of mainstream activities can be available. Hardy's size is not an impediment to a rich set of activities.

Anonymous wrote:I wrote about the sibling. Not paranoid--I emailed a supervisor I know at Wilson who said I should do the OOB lottery and the the principal would hv to get approval from Asst Super, and even then no concrete promise. Also suggested registering right after April 1 with current IB address and I may be fine but no promises! I think they are being very cautious because the matter is still in flux. Tomorrow morning I will contact Central Office.

I would get something in writing from the myschool people.