It's 25ºF out there now according to NOAA and it will be going down to 10ºF tonight and there will be a high of 21ºF tomorrow. So this snow will not respond to salt now--unless it's shoveled, it's going to be around for a few days.

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of complainers!
I'm sure you are also the first ones complaining when school is extended in summer because of the snow days.
I realize your routine is disrupted but you should be able to deal.
I walked and drove this morning and you can see fine. Just have to be careful and go slow.
Go late if you have to. MC and PG counties are much more spread out and have some rural areas.
It is a completely different scenario. Try living in upstate NY or Chicago. This is nothing.

Idiot. In Chicago and NY they salt and plow the streets. You can't leave the streets untouched with 3-4 inches of snow in a region where people don't routinely have AWD or snow tires. STFU with your tiresome comparisons to regions that always have snow and long winters.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't expect people to shovel while it is still snowing.

That's like saying there's no use in raking when there are still some leaves on the trees.

But shoveling is much more important.

I'm pretty sure those people are SAHMs who actually don't go downtown to work or have never had to walk in the snow in a suit.

The concept of snow freezing over tonight because they didn't shovel during the process is one maybe they don't understand. This is why DC is totally unable to deal with a "dusting"

I am a working mom who went downtown with a suit this morning. I did not shovel because it was snowing hard when I left before 8am this morning. If I was a SAHM mom I could have shoveled some and wait for the snow to stop and prompt shovel more. but I had to go to work and will be at work all day, so I will shovel late this afternoon when i get home. When my office give us a two hours "shoveling delay" I will shovel in the morning

But sweetie, you (I assume) own a house? Not a business between the metro and a school? Are you not capable of understanding the difference between shoveling the driveway of your house and the sidewalk between the metro and a school building? Or the sidewalk next to the metro?

I'm sure you have the critical thinking skills to understand the difference between HOME and RETAIL. Right?

yes, thanks, I own a house, and have the critical thinking to understand that difference between home and retail. I am not sure about your reading comprehension though. none of the messages before mentioned businesses not shoveling (my experience, and what I saw this morning confirmed, is that businesses and condos usually are the ones that shovel early and well). a person mentioned walking downtown in a suit, and downtown there are many residential areas (Dupont Circle and West End just to mention areas close to K street, where I work). the truly business areas downtown (like K St.) are usually clean. even Jeff mentioned that he shoveled this morning his sidewalk and I doubt he was talking about a retail or business. so next time, before being so rude in a post, you should maybe read posts more carefully

According to Twitter power is out at the Reeves Center (where snow command central is), and Bowser's press team keeps moving the time of the press conference but doesn't tell all the local media of the change.

Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:My street in upper ward 4 has always been plowed early and often. I just now saw the first one go by. It's definitely a different response for this storm.

Well, ward 4 is Muriel's ward--at least you're seeing plow trucks, we got nothing.

My point exactly. Under Fenty and Bowser as CM we always had better-than-most plow service.

I am sick thinking about all of the children who are going to be up a creek today when their buses are cancelled or modified in a way that is confusing to them. Most of the DCUM contingent is there to pick up their kids or can get someone there, but many/most? of DCPS is on their own. Terrible planning, terrible decision, I hope it comes with low cost in terms of accidents involving children.

Anonymous wrote:I have heard nor seen nary a salt truck. Muriel, your snow game is weak.

I saw a truck treating Connecticut ave yesterday afternoon by Cleveland park at about 12:30 pm. Looked more like sand than salt.

Functional jurisdictions salt the main routes before the snow/ice event. The city dropped the ball big time today.

I am utterly appalled--for lack of better words by what I have seen and experienced this morning. I laughed at the forecast yesterday, and I am not the person that usually calls for school closures, etc. There should have been delays or closures for school this morning. I have seen MANY school buses stuck or spun out. In taking my kids to school in a 4 wheel truck, I spun out twice. Bowser and Henderson dropped the ball on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:My street in upper ward 4 has always been plowed early and often. I just now saw the first one go by. It's definitely a different response for this storm.

Well, ward 4 is Muriel's ward--at least you're seeing plow trucks, we got nothing.

Nothing at all in our neighborhood. Ward 3

My section of Ward 6 got a nice email from Charles Allen that Muriel will be "checking on us soon"

Like Santa?

I doubt she's bringing presents.

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Anonymous wrote:You can't expect people to shovel while it is still snowing.

That's like saying there's no use in raking when there are still some leaves on the trees.

But shoveling is much more important.

I'm pretty sure those people are SAHMs who actually don't go downtown to work or have never had to walk in the snow in a suit.

The concept of snow freezing over tonight because they didn't shovel during the process is one maybe they don't understand. This is why DC is totally unable to deal with a "dusting"

I am a working mom who went downtown with a suit this morning. I did not shovel because it was snowing hard when I left before 8am this morning. If I was a SAHM mom I could have shoveled some and wait for the snow to stop and prompt shovel more. but I had to go to work and will be at work all day, so I will shovel late this afternoon when i get home. When my office give us a two hours "shoveling delay" I will shovel in the morning

But sweetie, you (I assume) own a house? Not a business between the metro and a school? Are you not capable of understanding the difference between shoveling the driveway of your house and the sidewalk between the metro and a school building? Or the sidewalk next to the metro?

I'm sure you have the critical thinking skills to understand the difference between HOME and RETAIL. Right?

Ugh, I just got stuck in a 1.5 hour commute because the roads were so bad - I saw many accidents, lots of blocked roads, and no streets seem to have been plowed. I think we know from previous experience that temps in the low 20s + heavy snow during rush hour is a really bad combo. A 2 hour delay would have made all the difference. I bailed on taking my kid to school after being stuck in traffic and struggling to make it through some intersections.

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Anonymous wrote:Downtown parent here, more annoyed that the sidewalks still aren't shoveled. It's tough for my kid to walk the blocks needed to the metro on un-shoveled walks. As long as we have our pitchforks and touches out, can we go after those who don't shovel?

Isn't the requirement to shovel within 2 hours of the snow stopping? I may be wrong. It is still snowing, so people are waiting to do it all at once.

Yeah, I actually went out and shoveled at 7 am in case anyone was going to use the sidewalk. But, it's completely buried again and you can't even tell I shoveled.

Same here.

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Anonymous wrote:My street in upper ward 4 has always been plowed early and often. I just now saw the first one go by. It's definitely a different response for this storm.

Well, ward 4 is Muriel's ward--at least you're seeing plow trucks, we got nothing.

Nothing at all in our neighborhood. Ward 3

My section of Ward 6 got a nice email from Charles Allen that Muriel will be "checking on us soon"

Like Santa?

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Anonymous wrote:You can't expect people to shovel while it is still snowing.

That's like saying there's no use in raking when there are still some leaves on the trees.

But shoveling is much more important.

I'm pretty sure those people are SAHMs who actually don't go downtown to work or have never had to walk in the snow in a suit.

The concept of snow freezing over tonight because they didn't shovel during the process is one maybe they don't understand. This is why DC is totally unable to deal with a "dusting"

I am a working mom who went downtown with a suit this morning. I did not shovel because it was snowing hard when I left before 8am this morning. If I was a SAHM mom I could have shoveled some and wait for the snow to stop and prompt shovel more. but I had to go to work and will be at work all day, so I will shovel late this afternoon when i get home. When my office give us a two hours "shoveling delay" I will shovel in the morning