Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 13:48     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

I wonder if he had any girlfriends growing up, and how did he treat them?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 13:07     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heather closely resembled Morgan.


Who? And no.


She meant Hannah.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 13:06     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:Heather closely resembled Morgan.


Who? And no.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 12:38     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:Actually traveling with others is a good idea regardless of age or gender. Males can be harmed as well, though more commonly they're beaten/robbed vs. being abducted.


Like the man who was severely beaten and robbed a year or two ago on Capitol Hill after going to a game or maybe a bar?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 12:34     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Actually traveling with others is a good idea regardless of age or gender. Males can be harmed as well, though more commonly they're beaten/robbed vs. being abducted.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 12:07     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:Have any of her friends spoken out about the why she was walking alone and not with them? Did they try to get her to walk with a friend?


This is a good point. It is a lesson for all young women - college age and 20-somethings. When you go out, go with at least one other person - preferably a group - and COME HOME TOGETHER.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 12:05     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does your sweet, innocent baby boy grow up to be a rapist and a murderer? I don't undstand.


Maybe mental illness or he was brought up in a abusive/violent/dysfunctional environment.


I just have a hard time comprehending how a man who appears to be close to his mom, grandma and sister could do such sinister, evil things to young women.

Even if he didn't have a fairy tale upbringing, how do you go from having dinner at Grandma's house and borrowing your sister's car, coaching kids to hunting, raping and murdering young women? Hannah was only a teenager. It's just beyond my comprehension how someone could do that...

Hopefully the families of these girls will get some answers at least. So heartbreaking.


Sometimes there are no answers. Ted Bundy was attractive, charming, etc. and he was a monster.


Ted Bundy was said to be deeply troubled after finding out that the people who he thought were his parents and older sister were really his grandparents and mother. Not sure if his grandfather was also his father. But I think he came from a secretively dysfunctional family.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 10:49     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Have any of her friends spoken out about the why she was walking alone and not with them? Did they try to get her to walk with a friend?
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 10:26     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Re: how does one become a murderer/rapist. I think it comes from a source of anger + entitlement. A sense that you are entitled to affection from women and you are angry that you aren't getting positive responses from your attempts. It also helps that you are very large and able to over-power women who are smaller/weaker than you.

The perpetrator probably doesn't feel angry towards grandma or sister b/c he doesn't expect them to accept his advances (like he does with other women). JM was shot down by other women that night in the bars. HG wasn't in a position to deflect/reject him b/c of inebriation... and to the extent she did, it wouldn't have taken much for a big guy like JM to suffocate her. Remember that JM didn't know HG or even set out that night to attack anyone. Sounds like he was looking for female attention. HG was just in the worst place at the worst time when she crossed his path. JM is more of an impromtu murderer rapist. Self-absorbed and angry at his lot in life.

In fact, I bet the psychologists will find out that his first and second rapes actually drove him further toward being a murderer later b/c he probably blamed the women he raped at the colleges for ruining his football career, his education, and his entire life (i.e. working in low-skilled job, can't live the American dream, etc.). That's how he makes himself into the victim and gets angry enough to kill those who are trying to destroy him (i.e. that's how he sees women who reject him or don't want to have sex with him).
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 10:04     Subject: Re:Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Not to be morbid but wonder if her family will to take her body to England to be buried.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 10:04     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does your sweet, innocent baby boy grow up to be a rapist and a murderer? I don't undstand.


Maybe mental illness or he was brought up in a abusive/violent/dysfunctional environment.


I just have a hard time comprehending how a man who appears to be close to his mom, grandma and sister could do such sinister, evil things to young women.

Even if he didn't have a fairy tale upbringing, how do you go from having dinner at Grandma's house and borrowing your sister's car, coaching kids to hunting, raping and murdering young women? Hannah was only a teenager. It's just beyond my comprehension how someone could do that...

Hopefully the families of these girls will get some answers at least. So heartbreaking.


Sometimes there are no answers. Ted Bundy was attractive, charming, etc. and he was a monster.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 10:01     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does your sweet, innocent baby boy grow up to be a rapist and a murderer? I don't undstand.


Maybe mental illness or he was brought up in a abusive/violent/dysfunctional environment.


I just have a hard time comprehending how a man who appears to be close to his mom, grandma and sister could do such sinister, evil things to young women.

Even if he didn't have a fairy tale upbringing, how do you go from having dinner at Grandma's house and borrowing your sister's car, coaching kids to hunting, raping and murdering young women? Hannah was only a teenager. It's just beyond my comprehension how someone could do that...

Hopefully the families of these girls will get some answers at least. So heartbreaking.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 08:42     Subject: Re:Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

JM, if he has committed these crimes, is a monster. He is not a gentle giant, a teddy bear, a poor little URM boy -- he is a violent rapist killer.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 08:21     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:This link here does say "abandoned property", so I'm guessing there may be an old house that wasn't razed when they built the park just over a decade ago (2002)?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/body-found-search-site-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham-reports-article-1.1979168


It was a creek bed behind a vacant home.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2014 08:12     Subject: Hannah Graham - what's the latest?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does your sweet, innocent baby boy grow up to be a rapist and a murderer? I don't undstand.


Maybe mental illness or he was brought up in a abusive/violent/dysfunctional environment.


Plenty of people who have mental illness, don't hurt others - certainly not violently.

Plenty of people from dysfunctional homes, grow up to be compassionate, kind, empathetic human beings.

Plenty of people from loving, warm, supportive households, grow up to be malicious and violent.

I don't know if there's some evolutionary or adaptive biological element that compels some men/boys to turn out to be like this, but it's nothing new. The race/religion/ethnicity/socio-economic class doesn't matter. But women, overwhelmingly by and large, don't do stuff like this - and they grow up in the same types of households as boys/men. I don't get it.