Anonymous
09/17/2014 15:29
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
You just cannot compare the lifestyle of the homes that lie right next to Clarendon Metro, the Metro, the gyms, all the stores, groceries, festivals where people walk to school (both ASF/Key and W-L) and the homes that are in the suburbs of Arlington.
Yes the outer areas of 22207 are much closer than Loudon--it is still a suburb where all daily activities need a car---the exact opposite of the urban areas of 22201.
People buying over here are looking at more than schools. Several of the newest families moved from McLean with HS-age kids..and-yes- they are now attending W-L.
Lots of people outside of Clarendon lead walkable/bikable lifestyles in Arlington. I see kids walking to coffeeshops, to and from school, etc in my 22207 neighborhood. I also see lots of people taking the ART bus to the Metro.
Why are your kids so tired they have to walk to coffee shop?
Anonymous
09/17/2014 15:27
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
You just cannot compare the lifestyle of the homes that lie right next to Clarendon Metro, the Metro, the gyms, all the stores, groceries, festivals where people walk to school (both ASF/Key and W-L) and the homes that are in the suburbs of Arlington.
Yes the outer areas of 22207 are much closer than Loudon--it is still a suburb where all daily activities need a car---the exact opposite of the urban areas of 22201.
People buying over here are looking at more than schools. Several of the newest families moved from McLean with HS-age kids..and-yes- they are now attending W-L.
Um, I'm not trying to compare exact lifestyles, but, yes you can make some comparisons as both districts are in Arlington which means (for the most part) same proximity to DC, same school district, same taxes, same local government, etc. One is more suburban, this is true. The other is more urban, yes. But there are trade off's to both. And like it or not, some people prefer CCH, or another part of N Arlington to LV or LP. I know we did, even though we had lived in Georgetown previously.
My sense is that you are trying desperately to tell us that your "walkable" neighborhood is vastly superior to everyone else's. You come off as arrogant. And get a grip. Clarendon ain't Paris.
Ummm...this started out with you Yorkies getting superior about your school. It devolved into you trying to make the argument that schools control all real estate values.
Idiotic in both counts.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 15:12
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
You just cannot compare the lifestyle of the homes that lie right next to Clarendon Metro, the Metro, the gyms, all the stores, groceries, festivals where people walk to school (both ASF/Key and W-L) and the homes that are in the suburbs of Arlington.
Yes the outer areas of 22207 are much closer than Loudon--it is still a suburb where all daily activities need a car---the exact opposite of the urban areas of 22201.
People buying over here are looking at more than schools. Several of the newest families moved from McLean with HS-age kids..and-yes- they are now attending W-L.
Lots of people outside of Clarendon lead walkable/bikable lifestyles in Arlington. I see kids walking to coffeeshops, to and from school, etc in my 22207 neighborhood. I also see lots of people taking the ART bus to the Metro.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:49
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:
Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
You just cannot compare the lifestyle of the homes that lie right next to Clarendon Metro, the Metro, the gyms, all the stores, groceries, festivals where people walk to school (both ASF/Key and W-L) and the homes that are in the suburbs of Arlington.
Yes the outer areas of 22207 are much closer than Loudon--it is still a suburb where all daily activities need a car---the exact opposite of the urban areas of 22201.
People buying over here are looking at more than schools. Several of the newest families moved from McLean with HS-age kids..and-yes- they are now attending W-L.
Um, I'm not trying to compare exact lifestyles, but, yes you can make some comparisons as both districts are in Arlington which means (for the most part) same proximity to DC, same school district, same taxes, same local government, etc. One is more suburban, this is true. The other is more urban, yes. But there are trade off's to both. And like it or not, some people prefer CCH, or another part of N Arlington to LV or LP. I know we did, even though we had lived in Georgetown previously.
My sense is that you are trying desperately to tell us that your "walkable" neighborhood is vastly superior to everyone else's. You come off as arrogant. And get a grip. Clarendon ain't Paris.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:45
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
+1 we considered both areas but one. Iarge plus for us of Ashton Heights is that I can forsee my kids being able to get around a lot as teens without me driving them everywhere. I see neighborhood teens walking/biking to the library, part-time jobs, movies etc.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:35
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
You just cannot compare the lifestyle of the homes that lie right next to Clarendon Metro, the Metro, the gyms, all the stores, groceries, festivals where people walk to school (both ASF/Key and W-L) and the homes that are in the suburbs of Arlington.
Yes the outer areas of 22207 are much closer than Loudon--it is still a suburb where all daily activities need a car---the exact opposite of the urban areas of 22201.
People buying over here are looking at more than schools. Several of the newest families moved from McLean with HS-age kids..and-yes- they are now attending W-L.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:32
Subject: Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WL is considered 3rd tier just get over it and move on with your life.
LOL. Speaking of cray-cray...
How is that crazy? Every metric and grouping has them on the 3rd tier whether it's greatschools or the usnews rankings.
No one actually things greatschools or usnews rankins are worthwhile or takes them seriously. It's not like people consult them when making home-buying decisions. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to do that.
The majority of people do look at those ratings and overall the better the rating the more expensive the house. It's a starting point.
We've already established that in an urban area the school does not control the price of the house---the location does. This is why homes in Georgetown, Dupont, close to Metro and having walkability (Clarendon) have a higher price point per square footage and lot size than homes farther away from these things. In a completely suburban area--with no other factors--then- yes- the school controls--but not when a neighborhood has many more amenities that trump just the school.
Schools in Georgetown have better ratings then those in capitol hill, the homes in Georgetown cost more and the incomes are much higher. It does happen in dc proper.
Capitol Hill also has a shitload more crime than Georgetown. Georgetown is like an island removed from the bad parts of DC. Capitol Hill borders the crime-filled areas.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:09
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow- this has devolved. And I wish I could find the specific threads that bashed the school so I could prove I am not trying to stir up crap for fun. I didn't even know it would stir up this much! I have little, little ones so I didn't think it would be as hot button an issue as it is, but also I don't have perspective.
Sounds like (from all these pages) that its not the best, but it is good. So like the astute poster's said early on, most of this is for button pushing as its not a place that is worthy of bashing on its merits.
To people who go there it is good, but for people looking around it isn't good enough.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 14:01
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
OP here. Wow- this has devolved. And I wish I could find the specific threads that bashed the school so I could prove I am not trying to stir up crap for fun. I didn't even know it would stir up this much! I have little, little ones so I didn't think it would be as hot button an issue as it is, but also I don't have perspective.
Sounds like (from all these pages) that its not the best, but it is good. So like the astute poster's said early on, most of this is for button pushing as its not a place that is worthy of bashing on its merits.
Sounds like (from all these pages) that its not the best, but it is good. So like the astute poster's said early on, most of this is for button pushing as its not a place that is worthy of bashing on its merits.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 13:34
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Also, Georgetown has no Metro. You are paying a premium for the housing stock and historic neighborhood. And you need a car--when we lived there I didn't even walk down to M street that much--too touristy.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 13:30
Subject: Re:Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Walkability is nice, but many people trade that for a (perceived) better school district and different housing options (some people want a larger house/lot.) What is so hard to understand? It's all still in Arlington, we're not comparing the lifestyle of Clarendon vs Loudon.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
Also, many wealthier folks aren't using Metro.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 12:58
Subject: Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WL is considered 3rd tier just get over it and move on with your life.
LOL. Speaking of cray-cray...
How is that crazy? Every metric and grouping has them on the 3rd tier whether it's greatschools or the usnews rankings.
No one actually things greatschools or usnews rankins are worthwhile or takes them seriously. It's not like people consult them when making home-buying decisions. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to do that.
The majority of people do look at those ratings and overall the better the rating the more expensive the house. It's a starting point.
We've already established that in an urban area the school does not control the price of the house---the location does. This is why homes in Georgetown, Dupont, close to Metro and having walkability (Clarendon) have a higher price point per square footage and lot size than homes farther away from these things. In a completely suburban area--with no other factors--then- yes- the school controls--but not when a neighborhood has many more amenities that trump just the school.
Who is "we"? Schools are very relevant in areas where people with decent incomes consider the assigned public schools. If you think there aren't people who rule out some Arlington neighborhoods because they aren't assigned to Yorktown, you are living in a fantasy world and need to get your head examined.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 12:48
Subject: Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WL is considered 3rd tier just get over it and move on with your life.
LOL. Speaking of cray-cray...
How is that crazy? Every metric and grouping has them on the 3rd tier whether it's greatschools or the usnews rankings.
No one actually things greatschools or usnews rankins are worthwhile or takes them seriously. It's not like people consult them when making home-buying decisions. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to do that.
The majority of people do look at those ratings and overall the better the rating the more expensive the house. It's a starting point.
We've already established that in an urban area the school does not control the price of the house---the location does. This is why homes in Georgetown, Dupont, close to Metro and having walkability (Clarendon) have a higher price point per square footage and lot size than homes farther away from these things. In a completely suburban area--with no other factors--then- yes- the school controls--but not when a neighborhood has many more amenities that trump just the school.
Schools in Georgetown have better ratings then those in capitol hill, the homes in Georgetown cost more and the incomes are much higher. It does happen in dc proper.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 12:45
Subject: Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WL is considered 3rd tier just get over it and move on with your life.
LOL. Speaking of cray-cray...
How is that crazy? Every metric and grouping has them on the 3rd tier whether it's greatschools or the usnews rankings.
No one actually things greatschools or usnews rankins are worthwhile or takes them seriously. It's not like people consult them when making home-buying decisions. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to do that.
The majority of people do look at those ratings and overall the better the rating the more expensive the house. It's a starting point.
We've already established that in an urban area the school does not control the price of the house---the location does. This is why homes in Georgetown, Dupont, close to Metro and having walkability (Clarendon) have a higher price point per square footage and lot size than homes farther away from these things. In a completely suburban area--with no other factors--then- yes- the school controls--but not when a neighborhood has many more amenities that trump just the school.
Anonymous
09/17/2014 12:41
Subject: Why do people in the Real Estate forum rag on Washington Lee HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WL is considered 3rd tier just get over it and move on with your life.
LOL. Speaking of cray-cray...
How is that crazy? Every metric and grouping has them on the 3rd tier whether it's greatschools or the usnews rankings.
No one actually things greatschools or usnews rankins are worthwhile or takes them seriously. It's not like people consult them when making home-buying decisions. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to do that.
The majority of people do look at those ratings and overall the better the rating the more expensive the house. It's a starting point.