We are in JKLM in a 3 bd/2ba for $2300. Not the fanciest there ever was, but it works!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the rules allow for it, like the joint custody poster above, you can go to DCPS and ask. Why do I think many people posing various themes of "I pay rent on the studio apt neither I nor my child live in" or "I pay dc taxes" are likely unwilling to go to DCPS and ask if their proposal is allowed by the rules. They know the answer, it is not. Somehow, however, they feel that they are not actually breaking the law because they have found a way to create paperwork.

If you are asking your child to lie about where she lives, you are doing something wrong and you know it. Own that you are a law breaker.

The only LAW it is breaking is your social law, of what is right and wrong. If we are paying DC taxes- we are abiding by the law. And the boundary issues- you all would jump through a million whatever hoops if we went to a city wide lottery. No sense in telling me you wouldn't because you would. The boundary fights/fierceness are throw backs when we tried to keep the black kids away from the white kids. So no, I do not feel forced to honor those at the expense of my kids education.

This is not "jumping through hoops," it is lying and cheating because you think the rules don't apply to you. If all that mattered was paying DC taxes we would have a very different school system. The boundaries are not about keeping certain kids out based on their race, they are an assignment policy based on where you live with the opportunity to allow for OOB when space allows and pursuant to a fair (lottery) system. There are some special rules for special programs (Oyster, SWS, etc). You are just making nonsense up to justify your cheating ways. I actually suspect that the cheaters and liars that pull this kind of BS are likely white families that are trying to keep their children away from the children in the neighborhoods they chose to live in. I have significantly more sympathy for families without any real choices but that is not who we are talking about here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the rules allow for it, like the joint custody poster above, you can go to DCPS and ask. Why do I think many people posing various themes of "I pay rent on the studio apt neither I nor my child live in" or "I pay dc taxes" are likely unwilling to go to DCPS and ask if their proposal is allowed by the rules. They know the answer, it is not. Somehow, however, they feel that they are not actually breaking the law because they have found a way to create paperwork.

If you are asking your child to lie about where she lives, you are doing something wrong and you know it. Own that you are a law breaker.

The only LAW it is breaking is your social law, of what is right and wrong. If we are paying DC taxes- we are abiding by the law. And the boundary issues- you all would jump through a million whatever hoops if we went to a city wide lottery. No sense in telling me you wouldn't because you would. The boundary fights/fierceness are throw backs when we tried to keep the black kids away from the white kids. So no, I do not feel forced to honor those at the expense of my kids education.

So you are trying to keep YOUR kids away from black kids.

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

You're right. It's lying and cheating. Much better than stealing, right?

Anonymous wrote:If the rules allow for it, like the joint custody poster above, you can go to DCPS and ask. Why do I think many people posing various themes of "I pay rent on the studio apt neither I nor my child live in" or "I pay dc taxes" are likely unwilling to go to DCPS and ask if their proposal is allowed by the rules. They know the answer, it is not. Somehow, however, they feel that they are not actually breaking the law because they have found a way to create paperwork.

If you are asking your child to lie about where she lives, you are doing something wrong and you know it. Own that you are a law breaker.

The only LAW it is breaking is your social law, of what is right and wrong. If we are paying DC taxes- we are abiding by the law. And the boundary issues- you all would jump through a million whatever hoops if we went to a city wide lottery. No sense in telling me you wouldn't because you would. The boundary fights/fierceness are throw backs when we tried to keep the black kids away from the white kids. So no, I do not feel forced to honor those at the expense of my kids education.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

But, OP IS paying rent in bounds of the school. That's what I don't understand about this argument. OP's not lying about having a place there - they pay DC income taxes, pay rent on a place IB for the school, just like everyone else.

Choosing to sleep in a different location, also owned by OP, doesn't really seem on par with stealing Jimmy Choo's.

Lying about renting a place there (e.g. some people's suggestion to change your address for your pay stubs) is a different issue. But, the OP is going to actually pay rent in the zone, the same as thousands of other people.

Exactly. What about the people who have joint custody and their child lives outside school bounds half of the week? What about people with weekend homes who spend two nights a week in a different house? Is there some requirement that you have to literally sleep X nights per week in bounds?

Conflating this with lying about DC residency illustrates a serious lack of logical reasoning; it's a completely different situation. One is residency (and probably tax) fraud, one is a questionable interpretation of DCPS boundary policies.

I have joint custody and asked about this. I was told that if we wanted to send her to the school in his boundary, he would have to show up with the residency verification documents and if we were sending her to the school in my boundary, I had to go. As it is, we send her LEGALLY OOB to another school, and I was told that it didn't matter which of us showed up as long as we could verify DC residency.

As for your other questions, I suspect that those things are probably defined somewhere as to what constitutes a primary residence. It didn't sound like the OP or the other cheaters were talking about moving to a place, for the school week or otherwise, but renting a place and just using the address.

Unrelatedly, I'd be curious to hear what the OP and the other cheaters would be doing with the apartment in question, since they weren't planning to live there.

sub-letting?

If the rules allow for it, like the joint custody poster above, you can go to DCPS and ask. Why do I think many people posing various themes of "I pay rent on the studio apt neither I nor my child live in" or "I pay dc taxes" are likely unwilling to go to DCPS and ask if their proposal is allowed by the rules. They know the answer, it is not. Somehow, however, they feel that they are not actually breaking the law because they have found a way to create paperwork.

If you are asking your child to lie about where she lives, you are doing something wrong and you know it. Own that you are a law breaker.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

But, OP IS paying rent in bounds of the school. That's what I don't understand about this argument. OP's not lying about having a place there - they pay DC income taxes, pay rent on a place IB for the school, just like everyone else.

Choosing to sleep in a different location, also owned by OP, doesn't really seem on par with stealing Jimmy Choo's.

Lying about renting a place there (e.g. some people's suggestion to change your address for your pay stubs) is a different issue. But, the OP is going to actually pay rent in the zone, the same as thousands of other people.

Exactly. What about the people who have joint custody and their child lives outside school bounds half of the week? What about people with weekend homes who spend two nights a week in a different house? Is there some requirement that you have to literally sleep X nights per week in bounds?

Conflating this with lying about DC residency illustrates a serious lack of logical reasoning; it's a completely different situation. One is residency (and probably tax) fraud, one is a questionable interpretation of DCPS boundary policies.

I have joint custody and asked about this. I was told that if we wanted to send her to the school in his boundary, he would have to show up with the residency verification documents and if we were sending her to the school in my boundary, I had to go. As it is, we send her LEGALLY OOB to another school, and I was told that it didn't matter which of us showed up as long as we could verify DC residency.

As for your other questions, I suspect that those things are probably defined somewhere as to what constitutes a primary residence. It didn't sound like the OP or the other cheaters were talking about moving to a place, for the school week or otherwise, but renting a place and just using the address.

Unrelatedly, I'd be curious to hear what the OP and the other cheaters would be doing with the apartment in question, since they weren't planning to live there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

Except of course, there is a law against it, just like stealing, you are taking a service through fraudulent action that you are prohibited from obtaining lawfully and your child can be removed from the school if caught. In other areas parent have been sent to jail for it. If you do not like how DCPS distributes quality schools then move.

I believe you when you say that it is unacceptable to send your child to your in boundary school. Where you lose me is with your solution, think harder, make hard choices and teach your children something worthwhile through your actions.

I'm not sure you're right about that. There is a law that non-residents can't attend DC schools without paying tuition, and there are criminal penalties for doing so. However school assignment policies are DCPS regulations. To my knowledge there are no criminal penalties for breaking DCPS regulations. So it is more like rule breaking than law breaking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

But, OP IS paying rent in bounds of the school. That's what I don't understand about this argument. OP's not lying about having a place there - they pay DC income taxes, pay rent on a place IB for the school, just like everyone else.

Choosing to sleep in a different location, also owned by OP, doesn't really seem on par with stealing Jimmy Choo's.

Lying about renting a place there (e.g. some people's suggestion to change your address for your pay stubs) is a different issue. But, the OP is going to actually pay rent in the zone, the same as thousands of other people.

Exactly. What about the people who have joint custody and their child lives outside school bounds half of the week? What about people with weekend homes who spend two nights a week in a different house? Is there some requirement that you have to literally sleep X nights per week in bounds?

Conflating this with lying about DC residency illustrates a serious lack of logical reasoning; it's a completely different situation. One is residency (and probably tax) fraud, one is a questionable interpretation of DCPS boundary policies.

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

But, OP IS paying rent in bounds of the school. That's what I don't understand about this argument. OP's not lying about having a place there - they pay DC income taxes, pay rent on a place IB for the school, just like everyone else.

Choosing to sleep in a different location, also owned by OP, doesn't really seem on par with stealing Jimmy Choo's.

Lying about renting a place there (e.g. some people's suggestion to change your address for your pay stubs) is a different issue. But, the OP is going to actually pay rent in the zone, the same as thousands of other people.

Anonymous wrote:Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

Except of course, there is a law against it, just like stealing, you are taking a service through fraudulent action that you are prohibited from obtaining lawfully and your child can be removed from the school if caught. In other areas parent have been sent to jail for it. If you do not like how DCPS distributes quality schools then move.

I believe you when you say that it is unacceptable to send your child to your in boundary school. Where you lose me is with your solution, think harder, make hard choices and teach your children something worthwhile through your actions.

Its more like rule breaking rather than stealing since you aren't taking a service you didn't pay for.

You ask me to distinguish it from stealing. I did. Sorry you don't like the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:How is this any different from stealing a pair of Jimmy Choos because you want them but you can only afford knock offs?

The level of entitlement on this board continues to astound me.

Because I'm paying DC taxes!

You really think that your DC taxes entitle you to attend any school that you want? That's not how it works, and you know that's not how it works.