Anonymous
05/28/2014 06:46
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of someone who is on the spectrum, all I will say is that if time and time again these kids are on the spectrum, maybe it really is time to think a bit more on it.
Not saying that asperger's makes you violent. Not at all, but it often does make you misread social clues, and personally, I don't want people who are prone to misread clues having access to deadly weapons.
And what about people who don't fit the criteria for AS but misread social cues? What about people with bad tempers? What about people with PTSD because of their service in the military? What about bigots?
I hate that we have so many guns in our country but lets not focus on a group (in which this shooter didn't belong, by the way. He didn't have AS) that is far, far more likely to be victims of crime than perpetrators.
I swore I wouldn't respond to this thread. Its about the ugliest thing I've seen on DCUM, some kind of open invitation to attack parents of kids with SN. None of you would survive a day in our shoes, by the way. Somehow this idea that we want to take care of our kids, who need a lot more care than yours, has been translated into a sense of entitlement. You think we're entitled? Would you like to trade places?
Anonymous
05/28/2014 06:40
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:Just in case no one corrected you after 7 pages...
It was UCSB... Santa Barbara, not San Diego (I'm a little touchy because I'm a UCSD alum)
And the kid had Asperger's, not autism.
Carry on.
He didn't have Aspergers. There's a link somewhere in this terrible thread.
Anonymous
05/28/2014 02:59
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
As a parent of someone who is on the spectrum, all I will say is that if time and time again these kids are on the spectrum, maybe it really is time to think a bit more on it.
Not saying that asperger's makes you violent. Not at all, but it often does make you misread social clues, and personally, I don't want people who are prone to misread clues having access to deadly weapons.
Not saying that asperger's makes you violent. Not at all, but it often does make you misread social clues, and personally, I don't want people who are prone to misread clues having access to deadly weapons.
Anonymous
05/28/2014 00:29
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Just in case no one corrected you after 7 pages...
It was UCSB... Santa Barbara, not San Diego (I'm a little touchy because I'm a UCSD alum)
And the kid had Asperger's, not autism.
Carry on.
It was UCSB... Santa Barbara, not San Diego (I'm a little touchy because I'm a UCSD alum)
And the kid had Asperger's, not autism.
Carry on.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 23:10
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the only people in the IEP meeting who can correctly interpret the tests that would show that your child with ASD is a genius are you and DC's other parent?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
I did! Brought the IEP team to their knees. It was awesome!!!
Walked out with everything we wanted. They shut their fucking mouths and got with the program after that.
Wow. Have you any idea how you sound?
Like a parent who got their child what they needed, and wasn't gullible enough to fall for the IEP team's "expertise."
Anonymous
05/27/2014 22:12
Subject: Re:UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe everybody should take a day or two break on this thread. It does little for any parent to go at another when most every one is doing the best they can and wants the best for their children.
This disturbed fellow did a lot of damage in a very public manner and unfortunately it may well have a negative effect on how other teen boys are viewed so it is quite understandable for caring parents to be concerned and sounding off. Maybe we should all ponder what is the answer - no one would want a youngster locked away for a lifetime as in the past. Yet why are community-based services seeming to fail so many who even are identified and get assistance?
I personally think it is the way our school systems are not suited today to educating boys - but rather have a hyper structured approach that is so much more suited to the learning styles of girls. It just seems really sad. My five brothers were very fortunate to be able to go to a large, parochial boys school in Boston suburbs which now is actually expanding down to middle school. It really was/is the entire package of education, sports, service, camaraderie and values. We just seem to be selling boys short today acros the socio-economic spectrum.
Agreed
Anonymous
05/27/2014 21:40
Subject: Re:UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Maybe everybody should take a day or two break on this thread. It does little for any parent to go at another when most every one is doing the best they can and wants the best for their children.
This disturbed fellow did a lot of damage in a very public manner and unfortunately it may well have a negative effect on how other teen boys are viewed so it is quite understandable for caring parents to be concerned and sounding off. Maybe we should all ponder what is the answer - no one would want a youngster locked away for a lifetime as in the past. Yet why are community-based services seeming to fail so many who even are identified and get assistance?
I personally think it is the way our school systems are not suited today to educating boys - but rather have a hyper structured approach that is so much more suited to the learning styles of girls. It just seems really sad. My five brothers were very fortunate to be able to go to a large, parochial boys school in Boston suburbs which now is actually expanding down to middle school. It really was/is the entire package of education, sports, service, camaraderie and values. We just seem to be selling boys short today acros the socio-economic spectrum.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 21:39
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the only people in the IEP meeting who can correctly interpret the tests that would show that your child with ASD is a genius are you and DC's other parent?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
I did! Brought the IEP team to their knees. It was awesome!!!
Walked out with everything we wanted. They shut their fucking mouths and got with the program after that.
Wow. Have you any idea how you sound?
Anonymous
05/27/2014 21:30
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the only people in the IEP meeting who can correctly interpret the tests that would show that your child with ASD is a genius are you and DC's other parent?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
I did! Brought the IEP team to their knees. It was awesome!!!
Walked out with everything we wanted. They shut their fucking mouths and got with the program after that.
Good for you! I wish more parents would provide some documentation instead of vague claims.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 21:24
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:So the only people in the IEP meeting who can correctly interpret the tests that would show that your child with ASD is a genius are you and DC's other parent?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
I did! Brought the IEP team to their knees. It was awesome!!!
Walked out with everything we wanted. They shut their fucking mouths and got with the program after that.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 21:23
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:All parents whose children aren't very smart are obsessed with finding tests that "accurately" reflect their child's IQ. No one likes the idea that their child may not be particularly bright. In fact, that's where a large majority of the astronomical increase in learning disabilities, autism, and adhd are coming from. Instead of accepting that their child is not a budding Einstein, parents demand a SN diagnosis and a test that will "accurately" reflect their IQ.
Guess what, IQ tests are a reflection of IQ, that's what they're for. If your child does not score well on one, it's because they do not have a high IQ. Just accept it.
Talk about a low IQ. Look in the mirror.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 20:49
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
All parents whose children aren't very smart are obsessed with finding tests that "accurately" reflect their child's IQ. No one likes the idea that their child may not be particularly bright. In fact, that's where a large majority of the astronomical increase in learning disabilities, autism, and adhd are coming from. Instead of accepting that their child is not a budding Einstein, parents demand a SN diagnosis and a test that will "accurately" reflect their IQ.
Guess what, IQ tests are a reflection of IQ, that's what they're for. If your child does not score well on one, it's because they do not have a high IQ. Just accept it.
Guess what, IQ tests are a reflection of IQ, that's what they're for. If your child does not score well on one, it's because they do not have a high IQ. Just accept it.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 20:38
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
So the only people in the IEP meeting who can correctly interpret the tests that would show that your child with ASD is a genius are you and DC's other parent?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
Interesting.
You can invite the person who administered the test to the meeting as an educational advocate. Have you tried that?
Anonymous
05/27/2014 20:30
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:So the school psychologists at an Annual review IEP meeting can't interpret the tests you mention?
I haven't yet met a school psychologist who really understood anything about special needs. They're arrogant and they lack any accountability.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 20:00
Subject: UCSD Shooting Suspect had autism -just what we need
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This has to be the most self-absorbed forum on DCUM, hands down.
+1
+2
I'll add to that, the most defensive, self-absorbed bunch of special needs PARENTS. Enough already. And no, you aren't more special than everyone else doing the hard work of parenting.
Talk about clueless. You have no idea what it takes. Being a parent to a typical kid is a walk in the park compared to dealing with many special needs situations.
You don't like it here on the Special Needs forums, then feel free to shove off.