Clearly we need to bring over some local Talaban to police such matters. I was in HS 35 years ago and there were plenty of kids having ACTUAL sex and getting REAL abortions. And that information was very widely known among students, because people talked. This happened in a pre-Internet, pre-HBO/Showtime world, in a suburb that was not nearly as wealthy as McLean, so it's not surprising that teens today express their sexuality electronically, particularly when they see that adults who are public figures have explicit pictures and videos released without incurring significant consequences.

If we were talking about adults preying on juveniles for mass distribution, that would be one thing, but this activity appears to have been taking place among juveniles within a closed system. My bet is that, had some of the girls learned that a boy was compiling these pictures in a folder, he's the one who would have been stigmatized for being "pervy" and breaking the social compact among the students exchanging the pictures.

The rich kids are neglected to, not just poor kids.

Why is anyone surprised?

Go to the explicit forum of this very site and you will see threads such as:

"Cock Pics please"

"Tit pics please"

"pussy pics please"

Children are copying the mores and values that are shown to them by their adults.

Attractive horny kids at popular wealthy school. Why is anyone surprised?

Let's not blame the boys fully on this either - the girls love showing it off just as much as the boys love seeing it.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Best school in FCPS. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job.

Parents need to set the tone. When a child's life revolves around getting better test scores and course grades than everyone else, morals take a far distant second place. Rearing a child of good moral character is far more admirable than turning that child into the class valedictorian.
Making excuses for a teen's bad behavior and poor choices does them no favors in the long run: it only teaches them that they can do what they want with no consequences.

There are lots of great things taking place every day at schools like McLean and Langley. They don't get as much attention, of course, as they don't give others the same opportunity to engage in moral grandstanding. Here's one:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2014/apr/30/all-night-long-relay-life/

But, hope your exercise in pontification made you feel better.

The main discussion in this thread is about morality and the lack of it. Obviously, there are some grossly inappropriate things going on at McLean by the students. Pontification, no. Controversy and discussion, yes.

Yes, I know lots of teens who are doing wonderful things, but this thread is about kids who have allegedly done some not-so-wonderful things. Too many adults are willing to excuse the bad behavior of teens and blame others. I'm the parent of both boys and girls and I teach them all to take responsibility for themselves. My sons and daughters know that their choices are their own and they cannot blame those choices on the behavior of others. Even if these boys had at least 52 different girls voluntarily sending them pictures, it is the boys being investigated who allegedly made the decision to organize the pictures into one site and send out links so others could view them. People have stated that the girls took these pictures themselves, but no one has been able to link to a source for this information, so it appears to be a mere assumption. There have been a number of other cases in the past few years that have involved involuntarily taken pictures, so it is better at this point not to assume either way.
A kid who makes a stupid or bad choice will be a better person in the long run if he is held accountable for the consequences of that bad action. Being allowed off the hook by putting the blame on others will send a completely wrong message.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job.

Parents need to set the tone. When a child's life revolves around getting better test scores and course grades than everyone else, morals take a far distant second place. Rearing a child of good moral character is far more admirable than turning that child into the class valedictorian.
Making excuses for a teen's bad behavior and poor choices does them no favors in the long run: it only teaches them that they can do what they want with no consequences.

There are lots of great things taking place every day at schools like McLean and Langley. They don't get as much attention, of course, as they don't give others the same opportunity to engage in moral grandstanding. Here's one:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2014/apr/30/all-night-long-relay-life/

But, hope your exercise in pontification made you feel better.

The main discussion in this thread is about morality and the lack of it. Obviously, there are some grossly inappropriate things going on at McLean by the students. Pontification, no. Controversy and discussion, yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job.

Parents need to set the tone. When a child's life revolves around getting better test scores and course grades than everyone else, morals take a far distant second place. Rearing a child of good moral character is far more admirable than turning that child into the class valedictorian.
Making excuses for a teen's bad behavior and poor choices does them no favors in the long run: it only teaches them that they can do what they want with no consequences.

There are lots of great things taking place every day at schools like McLean and Langley. They don't get as much attention, of course, as they don't give others the same opportunity to engage in moral grandstanding. Here's one:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2014/apr/30/all-night-long-relay-life/

But, hope your exercise in pontification made you feel better.

Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job.

Parents need to set the tone. When a child's life revolves around getting better test scores and course grades than everyone else, morals take a far distant second place. Rearing a child of good moral character is far more admirable than turning that child into the class valedictorian.
Making excuses for a teen's bad behavior and poor choices does them no favors in the long run: it only teaches them that they can do what they want with no consequences.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preteens and teens with too much freedom or parents that are too busy end up using their dumb teen brains to parent themselves. The teen brain will make bad decisions! Preteens and teens need parents to help them through the land mines of hormones, sex, alcohol, drugs etc. Do not assume anything with a teenager. Also be a good role model. Parents should not drink often, do drugs, gossip, and should teach kids how to be modest, caring, respectful of themselves and others, and how to maintain their reputation. Being a teenager is tough. Teenagers need good parents! Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job. Respectful dating relationships now are seen as a waste of time and young adults think that the opposite sex is just their to use. People need to make quality respectful relationships a priority.

+1 Very well said.

Agree. The social climate of your child's school is so much more critical than the cut-throat academic climate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know the family of the younger boy personally and I can tell you, he is an absolutely wonderful kid...a wonderful kid who did something incredibly stupid. He comes from a great family where both parents are extremely involved as both parents and in the community. In no way do I excuse any of it, but the girls put these pictures out knowingly and willingly. For anyone to say that it is just the act of these one or two boys is simply not true. It was the act of many, on both sides. Q

Oh come on, clearly if he is an "absolutely wonderful" kid he would not have done this. Would you be saying that if he shared explicit pictures of your daughter? I don't think so. By the way, being from a great family is meaningless. We all know bad kids from great families, especially if by "great" you mean rich.

Most parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing.
Too busy.
What do you expect?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think pps are making a (not unreasonable) assumption that the girls voluntarily took a pic of themselves and forwarded it to someone. I don't think anyone assumes the girls intended their pics become part of a porn site and widely available. No one here seems to understand the role of "intent" in this scenario.

it wasn't a porn site. It was a dropbox site which is for backups.

So the girls did intend for their pics to become part of dropbox? Or they dropboxed the pics themselves?

my children use dropbox to share documents with teachers. They have a folder on their laptop that is synched with dropbox. They copy a document to a folder on their laptop and it is automatically synched with dropbox. They email the link to the teacher and the teacher can access via dropbox.

I have dropbox setup for cloud backup for my windows machines. I can copy files to my windows machines and they can go to dropbox and I will never initiate or know when/how, it automatically synchs. If I had share a password with someone earlier they would have access to the new documents. it is very easy to use, a couple of clicks and setup.

to say this is a porn website is just wrong.

I for one hope the details, both about the boys and girls, stays private and are never provided to the public. I don't need nor deserve to know.

It seems to be that the WSHS teens took pics of unsuspecting victims (and then shared the pics among themselves) and the MHS pics were taken and originally posted by the girls themselves.

Could you cite a source for this information, please? Thanks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think pps are making a (not unreasonable) assumption that the girls voluntarily took a pic of themselves and forwarded it to someone. I don't think anyone assumes the girls intended their pics become part of a porn site and widely available. No one here seems to understand the role of "intent" in this scenario.

it wasn't a porn site. It was a dropbox site which is for backups.

So the girls did intend for their pics to become part of dropbox? Or they dropboxed the pics themselves?

Anonymous wrote:Preteens and teens with too much freedom or parents that are too busy end up using their dumb teen brains to parent themselves. The teen brain will make bad decisions! Preteens and teens need parents to help them through the land mines of hormones, sex, alcohol, drugs etc. Do not assume anything with a teenager. Also be a good role model. Parents should not drink often, do drugs, gossip, and should teach kids how to be modest, caring, respectful of themselves and others, and how to maintain their reputation. Being a teenager is tough. Teenagers need good parents! Parents today are too obsessed with good grades and getting into the right college. But look at the reality. Parents should spend more time worrying if they are sending their kids off to a school with lots of binge drinking and hooking up. Teenage and college students do not seem to respect each other anymore. It is all about getting the best grades and the into the best school to get the best job. Respectful dating relationships now are seen as a waste of time and young adults think that the opposite sex is just their to use. People need to make quality respectful relationships a priority.

+1 Very well said.

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:Wow. 6 pages and no one's blamed Landon or lacrosse culture, yet. What is DCUM coming to?

Or AAP