Anonymous[b wrote:]Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience[/b]

Actually, I agree with this. There was a study that was done a few years back that compared the earnings of Ivy graduates with State U. graduates working in the same fields that found very little, if any difference, in the impact of where you went to school on the overall trajectory of your career and your earning over your lifetime. It did make a difference for students who were black or Hispanic or who were first generation college graduates. What matters is what you do in the workforce once you are out there. What matters is can you perform and not what degree do you have. A link to a NYT article on the study, which also contains a link to the study itself, is here: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/revisiting-the-value-of-elite-colleges/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow, I can't wait to see you post this statistic. This just reeks of factual evidence, doesn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

You obviously have no idea what is going on between Mason and the Dulles High Tech. Corridor. Read re: the NOVA Technology Council. http://www.nvtc.org/index.php. The GMU grads work hard and get jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow. So glad I don't know you.

Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.

I think it is funny that you think the international crowd at third tier state schools is equivalent to those at others.

You seem to have some reading comprehension issues.

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Not to mention a HUGE chip on his or her shoulder.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow. So glad I don't know you.

Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.

I think it is funny that you think the international crowd at third tier state schools is equivalent to those at others.

You seem to have some reading comprehension issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow. So glad I don't know you.

Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.

I think it is funny that you think the international crowd at third tier state schools is equivalent to those at others.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow. So glad I don't know you.

Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

I know that's how it seems now, little whippersnapper, but when you grow up it just won't be so hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

Wow. So glad I don't know you.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.

Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.

You think spending $60-$65K a year for a SLAC is reasonable?

Anonymous wrote:My cousin has over $200K in college debt in a useless liberal arts major and is busing tables at IHOP. Whomever thinks Ivy is cheap is WRONG. It's 60K a year in after tax money - meaning you have to go make $100-120K to pay for that 60K and that 60K does not include airfare, cost of parents coming up for a visit, the STUFF, the computers, etc.

No one said it's cheap. However, my experience has been that the ivies are generous with their financial aid.

Cost of parent visit, stuff, etc...who cares? That's the cost of doing business.

And a liberal arts degree is not useless. Your cousin's simply a goof ball.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to 2 years of NOVA and 2.5 years of GMU to earn my bachelor's 10+ years ago. I saved a ton of money doing it that way.
Funny thing is now I work with a bunch of folks that went to UVA, Ivy's, and private colleges. We make the same, have the same types of jobs, work for the same company, and I don't have a load of college debt to repay.
Who's laughing now?

Most ivy and top school graduates do not have college debt.

Those schools have so much money they can easily offer money to those who wish to attend. That's the very reason I've only done ivy .

Furthermore , the second you and your ivy colleagues decide to move on and start submitting your resumes, guess who'll have more interviews lined up?

Ivy and top school grads will always laugh longer and louder than you.

That is not true. You may have benefitted from the coffers but many have and do not. Unless it's Princeton or Harvard and non-Ivy Stanford whose financial aid programs leave you without loans, you can anticipate obtaining loans from the other Ivys if needed. I know many people who are had loans, one being my dentist who attended UPenn, nephew who was given $5000 from Brown, sister who attended Columbia, etc, etc.

I am not talking about families who attend free because they earn less than $60,000-90,000. These were staunchly middle-class families.

I'm staunchly middle class as well and still benefited from the coffers. Most people I knew at the ivies left debt free. And of course, there were many, many families who did not any type of financial assistance at all.

I do know of a pretty well-known local figure many years ago who talked about how he left college (Brown) with a loan the size of a mortgage!

Yeah, in those situations, it's definitely best to go someplace cheaper.

But assuming that everyone with an ivy degree is in debt just to make oneself feel better about the less than impressive GMU degree is ridiculous. Ivies graduate thousands of students each year. I still believe most of them leave debt free.

PS: Just $5,000 from Brown would've made me send DC to another school if I didn't have the balance at the ready.

Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience

1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.