OP here-- apparently I AM an asshole. I've never left a few bucks for the housekeeper at any hotel in any country, regardless of how clean or messy I was. And I am hardly low class. Grew up traveling and staying in hotels with my family and friends' families and this was never common practice. I will start tipping housekeepers daily.

Nobody really talked about the concierge- so they make a dinner reservation for me and I should give them a few dollars?

If PP wants them to learn new skills, she should throw them a couple extra bucks. Maybe they can save up enough for night classes at a community college. She can still look down on them when they become clerical workers.

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Anonymous wrote:Not tipping because one believes management should pay higher wages is simply unfair to the worker. Your message is not landing with its intended audience.

Not tipping because one believes the employee should "get a better job" is a dick move by a person who is not fit to live in a civilized world.

You are an idiot.

I said that anyone not happy with what they are paid in their occupation need to develop skills that will earn them more money.

How do these disadvantaged workers learn these skills (while still working, because you know they need to) for these magical, semi-skilled jobs that are available? Since there are so many great learning and advancement opportunities for unskilled workers.

Anonymous wrote:Not tipping because one believes management should pay higher wages is simply unfair to the worker. Your message is not landing with its intended audience.

Not tipping because one believes the employee should "get a better job" is a dick move by a person who is not fit to live in a civilized world.

You are an idiot.

I said that anyone not happy with what they are paid in their occupation need to develop skills that will earn them more money.

Anonymous wrote:Not tipping because one believes management should pay higher wages is simply unfair to the worker. Your message is not landing with its intended audience.

Not tipping because one believes the employee should "get a better job" is a dick move by a person who is not fit to live in a civilized world.

Word.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tip housekeeping staff routinely but based on this thread, I will do so only if I stay at a hotel for several days or housekeeping provides some sort of exceptional service.

I really thought it was the done thing to tip housekeeping staff.

PP's point about tipping the staff at work who clean the bathrooms is also valid. Why would there be a distinction between housekeeping staff at a hotel and those at my place of work? I doubt the latter make much more than the former in wages from the employer.

Why would you now stop tipping? Because there are people who are saying they don't? But many are saying they do!

If 70% of Americans don't tip housekeeping staff at hotels routinely, it is clearly not the norm to do so. I usually stay in a hotel as part of my business travel and I don't get reimbursed under corporate policy for tips to housekeeping staff. It comes out of my pocket. Given that it is not the norm - and I thought it was - there is no reason that I should incur this expense personally unless there are exceptional factors.

You are cheap.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We spend about 15 nights per year in a hotel (DH travels many more nights). Years ago I noticed that he'd never skip the tip for the valet (every in/out with the rental car), the bellhop, the taxi driver, the guy at the curbside check in at the airport and on and on. But never the hotel housekeeper. It just didn't seem right to me. So now we tip them all.

This is such a male ego thing. Happily tip everyone they deal with face to face so he "looks good" but leaves nothing for the lady cleaning up his shit.

It's really about men's work being more important than women's work.

Same as it ever was. I always make sure I leave something for the housekeeper.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tip housekeeping staff routinely but based on this thread, I will do so only if I stay at a hotel for several days or housekeeping provides some sort of exceptional service.

I really thought it was the done thing to tip housekeeping staff.

PP's point about tipping the staff at work who clean the bathrooms is also valid. Why would there be a distinction between housekeeping staff at a hotel and those at my place of work? I doubt the latter make much more than the former in wages from the employer.

Why would you now stop tipping? Because there are people who are saying they don't? But many are saying they do!

If 70% of Americans don't tip housekeeping staff at hotels routinely, it is clearly not the norm to do so. I usually stay in a hotel as part of my business travel and I don't get reimbursed under corporate policy for tips to housekeeping staff. It comes out of my pocket. Given that it is not the norm - and I thought it was - there is no reason that I should incur this expense personally unless there are exceptional factors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We spend about 15 nights per year in a hotel (DH travels many more nights). Years ago I noticed that he'd never skip the tip for the valet (every in/out with the rental car), the bellhop, the taxi driver, the guy at the curbside check in at the airport and on and on. But never the hotel housekeeper. It just didn't seem right to me. So now we tip them all.

This is such a male ego thing. Happily tip everyone they deal with face to face so he "looks good" but leaves nothing for the lady cleaning up his shit.

It's really about men's work being more important than women's work.

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Anonymous wrote:It is low class not to tip the hotel cleaner. So maybe people just didn't grown up with these social norms passed on to them, b/c they weren't from a class that spent much-if any-time in hotels.

Well, if 70 percent of people staying in hotels are "low class", then I am happy to count myself amongst them.

Am totally with you, PP. Count me as part of the "low class" 70%.

Anonymous wrote:It is low class not to tip the hotel cleaner. So maybe people just didn't grown up with these social norms passed on to them, b/c they weren't from a class that spent much-if any-time in hotels.

Well, if 70 percent of people staying in hotels are "low class", then I am happy to count myself amongst them.

It is low class not to tip the hotel cleaner. So maybe people just didn't grown up with these social norms passed on to them, b/c they weren't from a class that spent much-if any-time in hotels.

Anonymous wrote:We spend about 15 nights per year in a hotel (DH travels many more nights). Years ago I noticed that he'd never skip the tip for the valet (every in/out with the rental car), the bellhop, the taxi driver, the guy at the curbside check in at the airport and on and on. But never the hotel housekeeper. It just didn't seem right to me. So now we tip them all.

This is such a male ego thing. Happily tip everyone they deal with face to face so he "looks good" but leaves nothing for the lady cleaning up his shit.