Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:57     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

^^ but I forgot, according to you, they should just move to the Eastern Shore of MD or Southern VA and everything would be better for them.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:56     Subject: Re:Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:Wow, PP. You just went on a tear with your flurry of responses yet you totally made an ass of yourself on reading comprehension.

Go back and look what it says: "a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally" and here you understood that to mean it was talking about FARMS.

LOL!


That poster may have misread the post, but that doesn't mean that at least once a week there isn't someone on General Parenting, Relationships or OT crying about how much they miss their family back in Ohio and want to move back (despite the poor job prospects). For centuries, people lived all over the world lived close to their families and raised their children near grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. Just because someone is poor doesn't exempt them from that need.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:52     Subject: Re:Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Wow, PP. You just went on a tear with your flurry of responses yet you totally made an ass of yourself on reading comprehension.

Go back and look what it says: "a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally" and here you understood that to mean it was talking about FARMS.

LOL!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:45     Subject: Re:Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

*nut job
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:45     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


Not when you're talking about jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.


A job paying $9 an hour sure wouldn't keep me rooted in DC. There are plenty of places in MD and VA with decent paying jobs and a significantly lower cost of living.


Like you mentioned, many areas with FARMS in DC are multigenerational. You see plenty of whining on DCUM about being close to family, it's the same for poor people as well.


No, actually a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally - so it's not them whining about constantly having to be close to family. They only hang with their families on long weekends or on work leave and most of them are perfectly fine with that arrangement. Plus, I question the value of being close to family when it's that family who put you in the situation of multigenerational poverty in the first place, and who is not helping you out of it. And even so, if you move across the border out of DC, it's not as though you need to apply for a visa to come back in, just get on the damn metro, bus, train, whatever.


Do you even know one low income person? How can you give so much detail of how they spend their weekends or spend time with their families? You are one but job that likes to make assumptions of how poor black families live their lives? Or maybe you know one middle class black family and figure you are an expert. Don't tell me, you're not a racist, you've had a black person at your dinner table.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:40     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


You realize families were living here for generations before you thought it was "cool" to move to Cap Hill or you WOTP monster house.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:40     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


Not when you're talking about jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.


A job paying $9 an hour sure wouldn't keep me rooted in DC. There are plenty of places in MD and VA with decent paying jobs and a significantly lower cost of living.


Like you mentioned, many areas with FARMS in DC are multigenerational. You see plenty of whining on DCUM about being close to family, it's the same for poor people as well.


No, actually a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally - so it's not them whining about constantly having to be close to family. They only hang with their families on long weekends or on work leave and most of them are perfectly fine with that arrangement. Plus, I question the value of being close to family when it's that family who put you in the situation of multigenerational poverty in the first place, and who is not helping you out of it. And even so, if you move across the border out of DC, it's not as though you need to apply for a visa to come back in, just get on the damn metro, bus, train, whatever.


The solutions are so clear from our ivory towers aren't they?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:39     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


Not when you're talking about jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.


A job paying $9 an hour sure wouldn't keep me rooted in DC. There are plenty of places in MD and VA with decent paying jobs and a significantly lower cost of living.


Like you mentioned, many areas with FARMS in DC are multigenerational. You see plenty of whining on DCUM about being close to family, it's the same for poor people as well.


No, actually a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally - so it's not them whining about constantly having to be close to family. They only hang with their families on long weekends or on work leave and most of them are perfectly fine with that arrangement. Plus, I question the value of being close to family when it's that family who put you in the situation of multigenerational poverty in the first place, and who is not helping you out of it. And even so, if you move across the border out of DC, it's not as though you need to apply for a visa to come back in, just get on the damn metro, bus, train, whatever.


Are you fucking kidding me?? I hope you do not have kids. Can't imagine how your poor kids turn out. Also, where can one find a stat that supports your wild statement that poor people in DC are not from DC? Yeah, I'm hella poor, let me move into the city and blame it on my sorry ass family that kept me in poverty.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:36     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

They want to wreck Ross, too, not just Brent.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:35     Subject: Re:Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Here's a thought. Let's get some decent public schools in Petworth and Columbia Heights first. All the families I know with school aged children attend charters or private.


You need to meet more people.

LOL - I thought the same thing. WTF.


Which DCPS in Columbia Heights are 100% middle class in ps3? How about 50%? I'd love to hear which schools are outnumbering FAMs.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:31     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

This group is trying to avoid a Brent-style turnover. But for every Brent there is a Bancroft, where neighborhood change did not "flip" a school. This is focusing on particular cases instead of setting reasonable citywide policy.

Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:30     Subject: Re:Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
Here's a thought. Let's get some decent public schools in Petworth and Columbia Heights first. All the families I know with school aged children attend charters or private.


You need to meet more people.

LOL - I thought the same thing. WTF.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:29     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


Not when you're talking about jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.


A job paying $9 an hour sure wouldn't keep me rooted in DC. There are plenty of places in MD and VA with decent paying jobs and a significantly lower cost of living.


Like you mentioned, many areas with FARMS in DC are multigenerational. You see plenty of whining on DCUM about being close to family, it's the same for poor people as well.


No, actually a large percentage of non-FARMS families didn't even come from DC originally - so it's not them whining about constantly having to be close to family. They only hang with their families on long weekends or on work leave and most of them are perfectly fine with that arrangement. Plus, I question the value of being close to family when it's that family who put you in the situation of multigenerational poverty in the first place, and who is not helping you out of it. And even so, if you move across the border out of DC, it's not as though you need to apply for a visa to come back in, just get on the damn metro, bus, train, whatever.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:28     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought. Let's get some decent public schools in Petworth and Columbia Heights first. All the families I know with school aged children attend charters or private.


You need to meet more people.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 19:16     Subject: Today's Post OpEd from DCPS consultants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about the opposite? Dilute the FARMS families to the burbs, where there's more likely to be a critical mass of middle-class that could absorb it? Rents are a lot cheaper outside of the city, and it's not as though there has ever been any real opportunity for life change for folks in multigenerational poverty as long as they stay in the city.


Ah yes, ship the poor folks out to the burbs and make them commute into the city for their jobs.


If they had worthwhile jobs in the city, they wouldn't be FARMS in the first place.

And consider that thousands of people commute into the city because they can't afford to live in the city. Lower cost of living outside the city can more than offset the cost of commuting.


Not when you're talking about jobs that pay 9 bucks an hour.


A job paying $9 an hour sure wouldn't keep me rooted in DC. There are plenty of places in MD and VA with decent paying jobs and a significantly lower cost of living.


Like you mentioned, many areas with FARMS in DC are multigenerational. You see plenty of whining on DCUM about being close to family, it's the same for poor people as well.