Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 11:10     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Anonymous wrote:No. It's precisely the correct analogy, painful as it may appear to you. It drives home the point, past your blind spots, using examples from your world.

Those characters are the epitome of prep since childhood for their skill set. Such prep occurs for other skill sets as you have acknowledged. The irony, is you worship and adore one set of skill sets but abhor another.



Why do you assume that people who are saying "I didn't prep my kid for the HGC test, and I don't know if prepping would even make a difference" all have their children in competitive after-school sports 50 hours a week?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 11:02     Subject: Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Phelps is arguably the best swimmer in the world. So, you are saying that prepping your kid for an HGC test is going to result in them being a Nobel Prize winning scientist, economist or the like? Please! And there are plenty of swimmers that worked their butts off like Phelps that got nothing. And to be honest, let's consider Phelps after outside of swimming - he's had some rough spots - for lack of well roundedness and immaturity.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:57     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
No. It's precisely the correct analogy, painful as it may appear to you. It drives home the point, past your blind spots, using examples from your world.

Those characters are the epitome of prep since childhood for their skill set. Such prep occurs for other skill sets as you have acknowledged. The irony, is you worship and adore one set of skill sets but abhor another.

Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:51     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Anonymous wrote:
Good grief, PP at 9:42. Are you saying that your kid wouldn't have gotten in if she hadn't prepped? Are you saying that kids whose parents don't prep them for an IQ test in third grade will never prep for any other test ever in their whole life (and that this will doom them to failure)? Are you saying that all parents who provide academic opportunities outside of school prep their kids, and conversely that all parents who do not prep their kids also do not provide academic opportunities outside of school (and that this will doom them to failure)?

I don't get it, I really don't. Prep your kids. Go ahead! Yay! (And, in fact, as the PP at 9:35 points out, it's in your own best interest to shut up about it and claim that you're not doing it.)


I am afraid so.

Her closest friends prep and are extremely talented, smart, and intelligent. Imagine a 10 year-old going up against Micheal Phelps as a 10-year-old in a dual swim meet (NBAC). Michael had a tremendous work ethic in the pool and prepped hard at 7. He is also extremely talented.

Do you see the point?

What happens when you combine talent, hard work, and prep? Does it matter if you are talking about music, theatre, athletics or academics?


can you drop the whole Phelps, Manning Brady thing...it's getting really old.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:44     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
The facts are the facts. No cut off -- just median.

Leaves plenty of wiggle room...wink, wink!!!
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:28     Subject: Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
I'm amazed by the festival of competitive anxiety and conspiracy theories this thread has turned into.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:24     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
I am so glad to see all the "didn't prep" replies because the whole idea of prepping is crazy. I'd never consider doing that. If our child doesn't score high enough with his natural ability and others do - then he shouldn't be at the school.


What is high enough? The only scores reported are a distribution (e.g., median)

Do I need to join the PTA to have inside pull with the Principal and teachers?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:18     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
I am so glad to see all the "didn't prep" replies because the whole idea of prepping is crazy. I'd never consider doing that. If our child doesn't score high enough with his natural ability and others do - then he shouldn't be at the school.


The very definition of gullible.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:10     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Good grief, PP at 9:42. Are you saying that your kid wouldn't have gotten in if she hadn't prepped? Are you saying that kids whose parents don't prep them for an IQ test in third grade will never prep for any other test ever in their whole life (and that this will doom them to failure)? Are you saying that all parents who provide academic opportunities outside of school prep their kids, and conversely that all parents who do not prep their kids also do not provide academic opportunities outside of school (and that this will doom them to failure)?

I don't get it, I really don't. Prep your kids. Go ahead! Yay! (And, in fact, as the PP at 9:35 points out, it's in your own best interest to shut up about it and claim that you're not doing it.)


I got it. Deny, deny, and deny and lie, lie, and lie. I guess that's what we have going on here. Your point is well taken.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 10:06     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Good grief, PP at 9:42. Are you saying that your kid wouldn't have gotten in if she hadn't prepped? Are you saying that kids whose parents don't prep them for an IQ test in third grade will never prep for any other test ever in their whole life (and that this will doom them to failure)? Are you saying that all parents who provide academic opportunities outside of school prep their kids, and conversely that all parents who do not prep their kids also do not provide academic opportunities outside of school (and that this will doom them to failure)?

I don't get it, I really don't. Prep your kids. Go ahead! Yay! (And, in fact, as the PP at 9:35 points out, it's in your own best interest to shut up about it and claim that you're not doing it.)


I am afraid so.

Her closest friends prep and are extremely talented, smart, and intelligent. Imagine a 10 year-old going up against Micheal Phelps as a 10-year-old in a dual swim meet (NBAC). Michael had a tremendous work ethic in the pool and prepped hard at 7. He is also extremely talented.

Do you see the point?

What happens when you combine talent, hard work, and prep? Does it matter if you are talking about music, theatre, athletics or academics?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 09:52     Subject: Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Good grief, PP at 9:42. Are you saying that your kid wouldn't have gotten in if she hadn't prepped? Are you saying that kids whose parents don't prep them for an IQ test in third grade will never prep for any other test ever in their whole life (and that this will doom them to failure)? Are you saying that all parents who provide academic opportunities outside of school prep their kids, and conversely that all parents who do not prep their kids also do not provide academic opportunities outside of school (and that this will doom them to failure)?

I don't get it, I really don't. Prep your kids. Go ahead! Yay! (And, in fact, as the PP at 9:35 points out, it's in your own best interest to shut up about it and claim that you're not doing it.)
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 09:47     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
I do not understand why parents defend academic prepping?

Do they realize that they are better served if others do not prep?


+1000

I too wonder why parents defend athletic prepping (the kind Peyton Manning and Michael Phelps have done year round since the age of 7). Do they realize that they are better served if others do not prep?

Then their kids my have a chance at football and swimming.


Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 09:42     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Good grief, you really have issues. Btw my kid got in and did no prep. Sorry to disappoint you!


My kid got in and prepared. So my kid isn't as good as yours. I know that.

She also got into the CTY-SET group by age 11.

Even though she was not deserving she has no regrets about her work ethic regarding her academics/studies and ECs.

She even got a good night's sleep and had a hearty breakfast before the test.

Figure that one out.

I am so happy your kid got in and did no prep. Let us know about her future successes with no prep and enrichment before tests. I'm sure there will be many for a long time to come. Keep it up.

I think it's too late for me to change my child's habits. Oh well, that's life.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 09:35     Subject: Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
I do not understand why parents defend academic prepping?

Do they realize that they are better served if others do not prep?


Anonymous
Post 01/13/2014 09:34     Subject: Re:Cross Post: Elementary School Magnet tests | MoCo
Anonymous wrote:
Behold the power of preparation to maximize potential - even in the most low down professions.

Robert Kardashian shelled out the big bucks to get all his daughters make-up lessons from a Hollywood make-up artist. Without prep they would have been low level hooters waitresses...now they are reality stars.


Even Robert Kardashian isn't so selfish that he avoided lending a hand to help his own children get ahead.


You got to maximize their potential...in whatever field it lies.