Anonymous wrote:As best I can tell, the OP website is not correct, but of all the HPRB members, the only ones who are new Grey appointees are an Architect from Dupont Circle and a member of Historic Anacostia. The chair was elevated, maybe she was a Grey appointee too, but look at her qualifications.
That hardly seems like a conspiracy.
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Today , well, thanks to the DC Builder's Assoc getting the HPRB lined with its nominees ( thanks to Gray) its open season....build whatever you want as long as it has a sprinkler system. Pretty soon there will be a roof deck overlooking the Washington monument and condos being built in Arlington cemetary.
This is pretty funny. The most "conservative" members of HPRB were nominated by Grey, and people all over town reject new historic districts because of their limits on property rights. Further, people complain about all of the bland architecture in the city, both within and beyond historic districts.
Anonymous wrote:How would you know? Do you claim to know what is in the minds of Black people? Please tell me how you are better qualified to speculate as to what may lie in the minds of Black people than I am. I can't wait.
Actually I think the Hardy fiasco was an important turning point - and what happened there was that a lot of middle-class families (both black and white) who sent their kids to Hardy got pissed off when Rhee removed Hardy's highly successful principal, assigning him to start a new arts-oriented magnet middle school (which never happened and kept him out of any school whatsoever for a year) . I know that it mobilized me to write Gray to ask him to run. Pissing off the middle class is a bad, bad idea because they won't just grumble like the poor. They will organize and vote. A generalization I know but one that has truth behind it.Anonymous wrote:
None of the AA's I know did not vote for Fenty because he was not Black enough; whites focus more on his racial status than blacks. He lived in a Black neighborhood, sent his kids to an all-AA school from preschool through 3rd grade including during his first year or two as Mayor, attended a Black church; went on romps in the Bahamas with his boys, etc.) They did not vote for him because they knew him. They had given him a pass when he ran for CM because he had stolen the old lady's money whose estate he was supervising (Bar gave him a slap on wrist because he was young; AA's gave him a break because they assumed he had learned from his mistake; whites don't even mention it.) However, as Mayor he then proceeded to "shake-down" the AA community through "required" contributions and other actions which I will not name here. The white community was only focused on the "pretty" stuff he was doing in the name of reform. Gray was drafted to run because of Fenty and his AG's shenanigans. Rhee was the icing on the cake because she destroyed several schools that served low SES AAs. She did not understand the student populations of those schools and removed the supports (which was all they had keeping the students in school and making any type of progess.) The AA community also knew that there was widespread test cheating that was prevalent under Rhee and posted about it on listserves. For example, some schools, including Charters, would separate the poor students from the rest of the class and assign them to a different room for testing. A friend's son who was behind on math was told he did not need to come to school that day; my friend took him and made him request that he sit with his class for testing (her mother was a teacher and had told her it was easy to lose an entire room of tests if you knew it housed the poor performers.) It was clear in the AA community that he really only saw the Mayor's job as a stepping stone to bigger things and did not really care about the residents or the city, only about his image and what he could gain. He was successful and has since moved on to CA in the next stage of his self-promotion aka Steve Jobs widow (which some of the AA community knew about 6-9 months before the Post reported) or do you believe it is TRUE love on his part.
Yep, probably doesn't get reported often in Huffington Post.Anonymous wrote:PP - please stop. You have no idea of what is in the minds of Black people, so please just stop it.
Anonymous wrote:The idea that Fenty wasn't black enough is absurd. He won Ward 8 with 56% of the primary vote. Linda Cropp got 35% and the others were in the single digits.
It is his tenure, his policies, that caused him to lose blacks supporters. Conservatives are stirring the pot on this one. The vote against Fenty wasn't racial.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Especially with Gray channeling himself to Black radio, speaking in a Black dialect, etc. Fenty didn't even pretend to be Black. He identified himself as mixed-race. Did this hurt him in 2006? No. In 2006 he was Black enough. But by 2010, with the perception that he was catering to White, upper-class interests, he was no longer viewed as "Black enough". Then he was half White, with a wife who was a foreigner.
what is "black dialect"?![]()
Stop rolling your eyes. They might fall out of your silly head. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/black+english
Just because questions of race make us uncomfortable is no reason to be afraid to discuss them. A black dialect isn't all that different from a Boston or a New York accent, really. Gray spoke with a Black dialect, especially during the campaign. But he still does. Fenty did not. If my stating these facts makes you want to imply that I am somehow a racist, that says a lot more about you than it does about me.
Take your pick; Ebonics, negro speech or negro American dialect. Just say what you really mean, was he not as eloquent enough for you? Did he get his point across? the fact that you referenced an institutionalized to reference "black dialect" shows how lame you are.
I referenced the dictionary. Here's another discussion about dialect: http://www.asha.org/policy/TR2003-00044/
There is nothing derisive about the term "black dialect". I'm sorry that you have issues that cause you to view it as derisive.
NP - I also find your term derisive and really don't know what you mean - as it pertains to Gray's speech patterns.
Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps posting about how Blacks felt Fenty was not Black enough because he is biracial is very offensive. In our community we are very much used to biracial people. As a matter of fact, we don't call them biracial. We just say they are Black with a white mom, Japanese mom, Italian dad, etc. It is white people who lise that label of biracial.
Understand that no one cared about Fenty's racial makeup. If Black people considered whether Fenty was Black enough based on his parents, Fenty would not have received the Black vote agains Cropp, who to my knowledge, has two Black parents. When this poster keeps posting her racist views that Blacks did not vote for Fenty because of his mom's skin color, she is implying that we Black folks are dumb, racist and as shallow as she.
I personally know of many white people who voted for Gray over Fenty. If I use that poster's logic, the reason they voted for Gray is because the color of Gray's skin was much closer to white skin than Fenty's. Fenty was not white enough for them. Ugh.