Anonymous wrote:It's very simple. The brain changes in the womb, at birth, in school, and in old age. The brain is therefore plastic, malleable and not immutable. This rapidly changing organ, the brain, is the seat of intelligence for most homo sapiens. This rapid change and developing neuronal interconnections are affected in various ways by varying stimuli. Thus, intelligence changes. It is not immutable.

You do not have to travel to Iowa to understand this. Middle school science will suffice in bringing you up to speed. The Bible does not provide the truth regarding intelligence.

And here is where you are wrong. Peyton's prep is preparing to play football, which is a critical life skill for him. CogAT prep is preparing to take the CogAT, which is something that will never be needed again. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM PREPPING FOR A MATH TEST! You Need the knowlege from one level to understand the next level.

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That may be true. But, I want my child to be able to do more than take the CogAT. There is no question take taking a walk in the woods, and talking about what we are observing, to allow us to understand nature is preparing my kid for the future. That builds neuropathways. It may not help her specifically on the CogAT, but it helps her in life.

some prefer to do both...prep and walk in the park...just like Peyton

That may be true. But, I want my child to be able to do more than take the CogAT. There is no question take taking a walk in the woods, and talking about what we are observing, to allow us to understand nature is preparing my kid for the future. That builds neuropathways. It may not help her specifically on the CogAT, but it helps her in life.

Anonymous wrote:It's very simple. The brain changes in the womb, at birth, in school, and in old age. The brain is therefore plastic, malleable and not immutable. This rapidly changing organ, the brain, is the seat of intelligence for most homo sapiens. This rapid change and developing neuronal interconnections are affected in various ways by varying stimuli. Thus, intelligence changes. It is not immutable.

You do not have to travel to Iowa to understand this. Middle school science will suffice in bringing you up to speed. The Bible does not provide the truth regarding intelligence.

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But that's not what this thread is about. It's about prepping second graders for an AAP screening test, which is designed to be a measure of natural problem solving ability, not competency in math or other subjects.

I am a neuroscientist. Please tell me what you mean by the statement in bold? How do you measure the parameters or variables you parrot?

But that's not what this thread is about. It's about prepping second graders for an AAP screening test, which is designed to be a measure of natural problem solving ability, not competency in math or other subjects.

Anonymous wrote:I'll help you. You will hardly study math in high school if you were scared off because of math phobia in primary school and a porous foundation from lack of active problem solving and preparation (prep).

Does this help you to connect the dots?

Anonymous wrote:I'll let you use your critical thinking skills to figure that out!

Anonymous wrote:http://qz.com/139453/theres-one-key-difference-between-kids-who-excel-at-math-and-those-who-dont/

Not so bad news after all.

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Definitely true at our center. So many kids have been "bumped up" to AAP over the past year (due to parent appeals), that the GE classes have dwindled significantly. It's really becoming ridiculous that AAP kids now far outnumber GE in our 4th grade. Anyone who appeals can get their child in, making AAP pretty much meaningless for the kids who are at the highest end of the spectrum, and making GE very unappealing for the others. Several kids at our school have left for privates, rather than get stuck in GE where up to a third of the class are special needs. I thought GE was where the majority of kids were supposed to be educated. Something is very skewed with the current system.

Who told you that anyone who appeals can get their kids in? I know many parents (especially this year) who did not manage to "get their kids in" on appeal. In my DS's school (Center), the appeals round generated only a handful of new entries (single-digit), and those few who made it in on appeal had fantastic WISC scores. The ones who had just good WISC scores, stayed at GE. Actually, the AAPRT herself told us that the kids who get in on appeal usually do better at AAP than the ones who get in during the first round, because the appeals kids are doubled-screened (NNAT/CogAT plus WISC). Without a great WISC score no one makes it on appeal. So, it's not the appeals that overcrowd the AAP classes, it's the helicopter parents who work the teachers to get their kids high GBRSs and usually make it in the first round. For the record, DS made it in the first round with good scores and decent GBRS, but his best friend, a highly talented boy with high scores but low GBRS, had to submit a stellar WISC to get in. According to DS, his friend's now doing much better than anyone else in his class...

Actually PP it is my experience with 4 siblings with families within FCPS (yes, we are one of those big, stay put families) that the majority of the parents who appeal DO get their kids in. Between all of us combined with the people we know there is evidence of this fully. Countless examples of successful parent appeals over the years. AAP is not nearly the academically exclusive program that it was in my day regardless of what it was called then and is called now.

Those who actually appeal are usually the ones with a strong WISC to submit. Those who even shell out $400 for their child to take the WISC are the ones with a strong conviction and reason to believe that their child will do well. If the child has always been average in school, and with average NNAT and CogAT, why would parents bother with the time and expense? The appealers are a self-selected group. Parents who took their child for a WISC and learned FSIQ was 115 probably did not advertise the fact or send the scores in.