There are people who actually WANT to live in DC anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:If I had my druthers I'd be workin' somewhere down Texas way.

Stupid's gotta live somewhere...

Ever seen all those New England white trash ladies in the "Fighter?" Knew some people like that grow in' up. Scarier than anything I'd find down Texas way. Texas ranks number two in state GDP. It is the world's 16th largest economy. Where's rinky dinky MA?

Love Wegmans, wish it were coming to Arlington, but hopefully much closer than the Fairfax operation. Cheaper than Giant and Safeway (Tweeter and Whole Paycheck it goes without saying), vastly better quality of meats/fish/vegetables.

Also prefer Costco to Walmart, in part because of Costco's better treatment of workers. They are two different stores though, and Wal-Mart can be amazingly cheap for plenty of useful goods.

Amuses and saddens me to see the bien pensant liberal DC view of Wal Mart expressed so often. Who shops there anyway, indeed. By all means do not shop there, but people in upper NW are fools--IMHO--if they think keeping Wal Mart out of the poor parts of DC is somehow "helping" the people living there. Heck, a Wal Mart job that still required some benefits would be a step up for the thousands of people who have zero jobs, are already on benefits, and who have no realistic entry way into the work force. Helping people get onto the employment ladder is a real step forward. YOu want better jobs at Wal Mart, pass a higher minimum wage. But understand the risks for employment of black Americans. Have you looked at the black unemployment rate in DC? Or the black male U rate? Ranges from 17 to 38 percent in 2012. Using BLS is a pain, but I have seen it higher as well.

I realize that there is a quiet acceptance that we are replacing black citizen workers with Latino immigrants, although rarely discussed openly, but would be nice to see progressives come out and be more honest about it. Then again, considering the kind of discussion we get about immigration in the media, maybe many are unaware. Off topic.

(If nothing else, DC, be smart enough to pass a higher minimum wage once the stores are up, running, and profitable.)

Anonymous wrote:If I had my druthers I'd be workin' somewhere down Texas way.

Stupid's gotta live somewhere...

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Anonymous wrote:Need to justify yourself much? DC is still the center of the region, the suburbs are the suburbs. Tysons Corner has done nicely attracting business, the tech corridor in Reston likewise, but they are still burbs. But good try.

hm, no. I disagree. Only a small percentage of Washingtonians (natives) actually live downtown, DC itself is very teeny, and it is mostly just a center for federal government buildings and for lawyers. All other industries and retail are all mostly based outside of the DC limits. And real Washingtonians mostly prefer to live "inside the beltway" - not downtown. especially now more than ever with the gentrification going on and all you transplants moving in.

What I find terribly ironic in the discourse of chest-thumping DC dwellers is that most of them, when they say "the city", in actuality only mean a very, very tiny sliver of the District. They haven't visited or ever been in most of DC's zipcodes. They have nothing in common with residents of these zipcodes. For all that matters, they inhabit different universes. And when they say "Washingtonians", they mean "people just like me". They don't actually include .the vast majority of District residents into their terribly selective concept of "Washingtonian."

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Need to justify yourself much? DC is still the center of the region, the suburbs are the suburbs. Tysons Corner has done nicely attracting business, the tech corridor in Reston likewise, but they are still burbs. But good try.

hm, no. I disagree. Only a small percentage of Washingtonians (natives) actually live downtown, DC itself is very teeny, and it is mostly just a center for federal government buildings and for lawyers. All other industries and retail are all mostly based outside of the DC limits. And real Washingtonians mostly prefer to live "inside the beltway" - not downtown. especially now more than ever with the gentrification going on and all you transplants moving in.

What I find terribly ironic in the discourse of chest-thumping DC dwellers is that most of them, when they say "the city", in actuality only mean a very, very tiny sliver of the District. They haven't visited or ever been in most of DC's zipcodes. They have nothing in common with residents of these zipcodes. For all that matters, they inhabit different universes. And when they say "Washingtonians", they mean "people just like me". They don't actually include the vast majority of District residents into their terribly selective concept of "Washingtonian."

From the New York Times, December 17, 2008:

"As it stands, Tysons is the nation’s 12th-largest employment center, based on its 26.7 million square feet of office space, according to an analysis by Integra Realty Resources. Altogether, there are 115,000 retail and office workers and 17,000 residents at Tysons. This ratio is “just out of whack,” said Stuart Mendelsohn, a land-use lawyer, former county supervisor and task force member. If the plan is carried out, by 2050 Tysons will have an estimated 150,000 full-time residents, who will be able to walk to work, restaurants and shops.

Today, nearly half of Tysons’s 1,700 acres are streets and parking. In all, the area has more than 35 million square feet of commercial space, more than the downtowns of Miami, St. Louis or San Diego."

And although it was the epitome of the "edge city" in 1991, when the term was coined, it is no longer even at the edge of the metro area's urban core.

I think plenty of people invested in D.C. without realizing the common sense is just not there.

Anonymous wrote:Need to justify yourself much? DC is still the center of the region, the suburbs are the suburbs. Tysons Corner has done nicely attracting business, the tech corridor in Reston likewise, but they are still burbs. But good try.

The notion of a region with a single hub or center is outdated. The population of NoVa is larger than DC's, and Tysons will become the primary downtown of NoVa. Government will be based in DC, private industry will be based in Tysons, and service jobs will be in both locations.

If I had my druthers I'd be workin' somewhere down Texas way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not that impressed by Wegman's. But I'm from New England, so "what do I know"....hahaha....

I'm not impressed by Wegman's either and am also a New Englander. We rock

But apparently you don’t rock enough to land a job up there.

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Anonymous wrote:Cool. So in addition to having the best retail shopping outside of manhattan (as is), Tysons will have it's own CVS, Wegman's, and Walmart.

That means from Pimmit Hills, I can pick from these large grocery stores within maybe a 1-2 mile radius:

(there's way too many small/organic/international/butcher type ones to recite on this list)

- Harris Teeters
- Wegmans
- Trader Joes
- Whole Foods
- Safeway (3)
- Giant (2)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Comparing TC to Manhattan! That's the funniest I've heard in a long time!

It's a fact, not a comparison - tysons has the most retail shopping of anyplace on the east coast or US outside of midtown manhattan.

Pigheads don't let facts cloud their prejudice.

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Anonymous wrote:Cool. So in addition to having the best retail shopping outside of manhattan (as is), Tysons will have it's own CVS, Wegman's, and Walmart.

That means from Pimmit Hills, I can pick from these large grocery stores within maybe a 1-2 mile radius:

(there's way too many small/organic/international/butcher type ones to recite on this list)

- Harris Teeters
- Wegmans
- Trader Joes
- Whole Foods
- Safeway (3)
- Giant (2)

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Comparing TC to Manhattan! That's the funniest I've heard in a long time!

It's a fact, not a comparison - tysons has the most retail shopping of anyplace on the east coast or US outside of midtown manhattan.

Anonymous wrote:Need to justify yourself much? DC is still the center of the region, the suburbs are the suburbs. Tysons Corner has done nicely attracting business, the tech corridor in Reston likewise, but they are still burbs. But good try.

hm, no. I disagree. Only a small percentage of Washingtonians (natives) actually live downtown, DC itself is very teeny, and it is mostly just a center for federal government buildings and for lawyers. All other industries and retail are all mostly based outside of the DC limits. And real Washingtonians mostly prefer to live "inside the beltway" - not downtown. especially now more than ever with the gentrification going on and all you transplants moving in.